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Old 04-23-2019, 09:23 PM #16
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I'm in Fredericton. You? First Toyota and I will say the dealership seems ok... wasn't happy with a couple things early on which has soured me. Never been to happy with dealerships in the past and don't really trust them. Haven't been back since they failed my inspection on brakes, when they weren't close at 65k. Quoted my rotors and brakes all around for $700 in parts plus thw cost of labour. I replaced all with premium brakes and rotors at third of that cost myself. Barely worn now 80k later.

From my first truck at 18, I've done all my own service. General maintenance items are fairly easy and I enjoy the process. At this point, I've done basically everything short of a motor overhaul. Hence, how i went looking for fluid change intervals. There is no recommended kms for changing anything but the oil, unless extreme service. Seemed very odd to me... just like the odd fluid viscosity used, with no option to purchase it even at the dealer or elsewhere at a reasonable cost. Transfer case is next for me, followed by the tranny probably around 160kms... I might not do the tranny myself.. we will see. Everyone here has been so helpful as I try and figure these toyotas out... wife is looking at new highlander but cant decide to wait for the new 2020 or not... guess I'm learn a lot more....

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So getting multiple answers around for the Royal Purple alternative to the factory liquid gold transfer case fluid. Is the RP alternative Synchromax or their 75W85 GL-4 gear oil? Thanks.
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I'm gonna go with this stuff as recommended by many here, as well as on the bottle is says compatible with the appropriate Toyota part #'s/ fluid. Many people have commented in the product review on Amazon as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HN360KCD&psc=1

The Synchromax is listed below as their compatible product, but I don't like that the viscosity doesn't match. Some here have mentioned they have used it without issue. But I'm gonna with the Ravenol product.

http://www.royalpurple.com/wp-conten..._Reference.pdf
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I'm gonna go with this stuff as recommended by many here, as well as on the bottle is says compatible with the appropriate Toyota part #'s/ fluid. Many people have commented in the product review on Amazon as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HN360KCD&psc=1

The Synchromax is listed below as their compatible product, but I don't like that the viscosity doesn't match. Some here have mentioned they have used it without issue. But I'm gonna with the Ravenol product.

http://www.royalpurple.com/wp-conten..._Reference.pdf
Thanks for the links! I saw a comparison between the Ravenol and the factory stuff and the ravenol is not even close to being the same except for viscosity. The Toyota stuff has a ridiculous amount of additives in it. I have no experience with Ravenol but do know that Royal Purple will stand behind their products and if they say it's compatible with the factory stuff, I lean more towards them.

I'm sure we are just wasting time here cuz both are probably ok since the dealers don't even care and run 74w90 but hey what else are we gonna do today?
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I'm gonna go with this stuff as recommended by many here, as well as on the bottle is says compatible with the appropriate Toyota part #'s/ fluid. Many people have commented in the product review on Amazon as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HN360KCD&psc=1

The Synchromax is listed below as their compatible product, but I don't like that the viscosity doesn't match. Some here have mentioned they have used it without issue. But I'm gonna with the Ravenol product.

http://www.royalpurple.com/wp-conten..._Reference.pdf

This whole Ravenol/Synchromax/Toyota liquid gold 75W question has been pored over on Bob-is-the-oil-guy website, with people sending samples for testing. Synchromax is the only one similarly compatible with the Toyota 75W. The Ravenol had similar viscosity, but was off on every other component.

As I understand it, the additive package is there to prevent corrosion to bushings within the transfer case. It is definitely among the automotive oddities by a manufacturer. In the pursuit of gas mileage and low-viscosity oil use, why oh why did they not go with ATF is beyond me.

I'm not an engineer, but I'll be putting Synchromax in when it's time for my T-case fluid change.

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For the cabin filter I'd say every 6 months. They are cheap and you can find them on Amazon for around $6-8 bucks each. I buy a few at a time to have on hand so I can change them out. Usually I change it right before Spring to get prepped for all of the pollen and dust!
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Hey All,

I have a feeling I’ve got a few maintenance items with my T4R that I’ve neglected and would like to address ASAP. It’s a 2013 with 140 000 kms on it. I’ve regularly changed the oil as recommended, every 16k kms with Mobil 1. I’ve also kept up with the Prop Shaft greasing with correct greases at appropriate intervals. Changed the brakes and rotors as well.

In the near future, I would like to address some fluid changes and any other maintenance items. I just want to make sure I’ve covered it all. Here is what I’m looking at, but I can’t find any documentation for the recommendation KM’s to do the fluid changes.

Front Diff - Fluid Change
Rear Diff - Fluid Change
Transfer Case - Fluid Change
Transmission Fluid Change - Is there a filter here? Or just and R&R?
New Engine Air Filter -replaced once before
New Cabin Air Filter - replaced once before

In the near future, maybe:
Engine Coolant @160 000 kms - Do you really think this is necessary?
Spark Plugs @ 192 000 kms - Should I go Denso or the OEM Toyota Plugs listed in the guide?

Thoughts on:
I see a note for PCV Valve Replacement in Pauls Travel Guide.- Really necessary - Required?

Is there anything I’m missing here or that you would recommend?
Best place to get all these fluids in Canada, or am I only dealing with my dealership at full price? I can pick some up in the USA, when I am there from time to time or on Amazon.com. Amazon.ca seems to be expensive.

I’ve got quite a few questions here, but if you have any information you could provide, I would appreciate it. The amount of content and tutorials on here is incredible and so well organized!

Thanks,
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I have been unsuccessful so far after asking 2 dealers and scouting forums. Does a 2016 Trail Premium have a LSD? I purchased 2 liters of 75-85 gear oil and 3 Liters of 75-85 gear oil for LSD (because its a thing apparently) and it set me back $330.....yes thats correct. $330 for 5 liters of gear oil. So when I asked for diff oil from dealer because i wanted to change my rear/front diff oil and transfer case they said it all takes same oil. Once they brought out cans (its what they come in not bottles) he asked me if I had an LSD (isnt that their job?) I replied yes I think so. He went to the back and brought a can that was exactly the same as the cans he brought out previously except this one had “for lsd gear and transfer” printed below 75-85. This special gear oil also costs $80/liter. My question is do I need this for a 2016 4runner and did you use diff oil for your 4runner that has additive for LSD transmissions? Do we even need it for 5th gens? Maintenance manual does not specify this.
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For the cabin filter I'd say every 6 months. They are cheap and you can find them on Amazon for around $6-8 bucks each. I buy a few at a time to have on hand so I can change them out. Usually I change it right before Spring to get prepped for all of the pollen and dust!
I do the same but am spending more for Mahle filters. There’s sooooo much pollen and dust here.
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Transfer case

Lots of reading on the "proper" transfer case lube and keep coming up with 2014 changed to 75W due to transfer case update by BorgWarner. I have a 2012 limited (full time 4x4) that seems to call for the same 75W transfer case fluid.
A quart and a half mind you... that means in the cans, unless transfer to different container, a loss of 1/2 quart.
Anyone know why the 12 calls for this PRIOR to the 2014 modification?
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ALL FLUIDS GUIDE: Beginner Fluid Maintenance

You obviously don't have to follow this to have a well maintained 4Runner, but I think it's a good reference.
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