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msquared 02-26-2020 07:40 PM

For sure, I kept gradually trying to upgrade my headlights every year and finally pulled the trigger on a retrofit. I think its also safe to factor in what you have available. I actually had a hard time finding IS projectors for a while so I just went with what the best projectors were at the moment. Now I have too many extra headlight accessories.
The warranty on my MLED 2.0 are good for 5 years, which I think I will outlast my needs if I don't get an itch to upgrade again.

Heads up I did buy everything at 20% as I waited for the holiday sale earlier this month.

1) I did buy the Morimoto retro-quik brackets. The $24 was worth it for me. I seen Biggu's post on his DIY retrofit (2014-2017 HID Projector Retrofit DIY) and I decided I did not want to spend more time on them if I could help it.
I do want to say I did make the mounting holes larger to make my horizontal plane a 100% for micro-adjustments. I did spend like 5-10 minutes modifying.


2.) What other wiring adapters did you need?
Depending on what system, HID/LED you go with, I just had to buy headlight socket adapters (H11 male ->9006 female) and high beam splitters. Which I see is question #4. That's it. The socket adapters may have been just for my application so I highly suggest you reach out to these headlight guys to ensure the materials and build sounds solid before you dive in. Caesar @ Lightwerkz or Matt @ TRS are who have helped me before.

3.) Did you use a shroud to cover the sides of the projector and which one did you use?
I didn't use a shroud. I don't think a shroud may fit around it. Stock projectors are 3", so are the MLED series and IS 350 ones. There is about a 1/8 inch gap around the 3" projector. Just test fit your lens since the stock shroud is mounted on the lens. I did have to adjust the height higher a couple times since it sat on the bottom of the stock shroud lens when test fitted. I must say I do see a little bit of the CNC stainless steel housing if I look really hard but other than that I could of sprayed it black if it really bugged me.


4.) Did you use anything for the factory high beams?
I bought high beam 9005 cable splitters for like $4. My projectors were bi-xenon so I was able to keep the stock 9005 socket with upgraded Silverstars for keeping DRL's on. I did attempt LED light bulbs but they do not dim like halogen bulbs. So I have x2 high beams, stock + bi-xenon shield down which is nice.


This is my first time with LED projectors so I need more drive time with them. I do enjoy the ease of less wires and 'plug n play' for this build.
Here's a run down of what I bought while using the stock headlights:
-MLED 2.0 Projectors
-2x H11 headlight socket adapters
-2x 9005 high beam splitters
-Retro rubber butyl sealant.
My grand total was ~$330 and about 12 hours from bumper removal to complete assembly & driving. I felt half the time was spent opening and cleaning the permaseal. TYC should be way easier though.

uh0h50 02-27-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by msquared (Post 3448946)
This is the latest thread I'm seeing regarding headlight upgrades. I have a 2017 T4R here.

I've put different bulbs (Sylvannia SilverStars, 2Stroke LED bulbs, Phillips XTR HIDs) in my stock headlights before finally retrofitting projectors.
As of Feb 2020, the best and simplest retrofit I could find browsing & after talking with Caesar from Lightwerkz was the new Morimoto Bi-LED M LED 2.0. I was planning to retrofit some Lexus IS/GS350 projectors with DS2 HID kit but turns out these new LED projectors are brighter and wider than a D2S with 50w ballast. Output wise, lux is 471 a bulb? but I think the practical measured units for actual use are Candela at 73,000 for low beams.

Anyways, I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.
Baseline wall:
https://i.ibb.co/YRLkH1r/IMG-9413.jpg

Stock halogen headlights with stock bulbs:
https://i.ibb.co/QY4TLKJ/IMG-9418.jpg

Stock headlights with HID kit:
Morimoto HID H11 kit: 35W Ballast // Upgraded Phillips XTR HID 4300k bulbs
(I realized upgrading bulbs and ballast output was a waste of $$ at this point after plateauing my output. Real increase needed to change out projectors)
https://i.ibb.co/VW0SC6d/IMG-9411.jpg

Retrofit projectors: (Morimoto Bi-LED MLED 2.0)
https://i.ibb.co/sVjp1FV/IMG-9426.jpg

I gotta say that it was a PITA and took me a full day to complete with experience. That permaseal Toyota uses to seal headlights is no joke.

Couple links I could find regarding them.
YouTube
YouTube

https://i.ibb.co/tZsPyVm/IMG-9398.jpg

Pic is right before I retrofitted the MLED 2.0 projectors. Running HID system in the stock headlights. Never had any blinding people problems as I made sure to aim my pattern lower than usual.
https://i.ibb.co/bz4bDgY/IMG-9381.jpg

Overall, I still need to do more driving with the MLED 2.0 projectors but happy with the output and width. The cutoff is so clean that I do miss the little upward glare from the stock projector for long drives :heh:

Nicely done!

ride16734 02-27-2020 09:07 PM

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I installed Nineo H11 along with dual color switch backs in fog light housing.
cutoff is great with no glare to traffic.

Jonny_04 02-27-2020 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hrantvarozian (Post 3261634)
We often drive from LA to Kern River on Friday night so upgrading my headlights will make a drastic difference on visibility during the drive.

I want to focus on making the high-beams and the fog lights really bright. I wouldn't mind upgrading the headlights but I don't want to put anything in that will blind normal car drivers when my headlights are in their rear-view mirrors.

I was contemplating putting in a light bar but I just won't use it enough. I have a 3 year old so any off-roading I do is during the day.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.


Cheers.

i drive on hwy 395 about 15-30 times a year and haven't had any issues with the lights I'm running; go with HID for your low beam and LED for your high beam. i went with 35w 5500k morimoto H11 elite HID system and 2.0 LED bulbs

atsprink 07-11-2020 03:23 PM

Alpharex series thoughts?
 
Hey all,

Been a lurker for awhile reading the different threads on headlight upgrades. I was wondering if anyone has experience with the “AlphaRex 2014-202 Toyota 4Runner NOVA-Series LED Projector Headlights”? I did like the look of the Morimoto XB led ones but after reading about the issues I no longer want those. Living in Colorado driving through the mountains in the rain/snow I definitely need better headlight options. Thanks in advance for the help/suggestions.

NB17Limited 07-11-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by atsprink (Post 3516722)
Hey all,

Been a lurker for awhile reading the different threads on headlight upgrades. I was wondering if anyone has experience with the “AlphaRex 2014-202 Toyota 4Runner NOVA-Series LED Projector Headlights”? I did like the look of the Morimoto XB led ones but after reading about the issues I no longer want those. Living in Colorado driving through the mountains in the rain/snow I definitely need better headlight options. Thanks in advance for the help/suggestions.


I have the Alpharex Luxx and just recently went on a ~3k mile round trip on the east coast. Encountered rain storms that were causing people to pull off the road and wait. The Luxx still lit up enough of the road I could see and keep driving. Occasionally had to turn on the BD squadron sport fogs to see well but I would not hesitate to put both those on a 4R again. IMO, save the few hundred from "downgrading" from the Novas to the Luxxs and spend that on not strictly street legal fogs.

dajosh 07-11-2020 11:21 PM

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I went with Kustom54 AB6’s with the Morimoto MLEDs BiLED projectors. It lights up the road really well by itself. I also upgraded the fogs with Toyota OEM LED fogs (replaced BD Squadrons which I didn’t use much). The combination is amazing.

mbm112 07-12-2020 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by atsprink (Post 3516722)
Hey all,



Been a lurker for awhile reading the different threads on headlight upgrades. I was wondering if anyone has experience with the “AlphaRex 2014-202 Toyota 4Runner NOVA-Series LED Projector Headlights”? I did like the look of the Morimoto XB led ones but after reading about the issues I no longer want those. Living in Colorado driving through the mountains in the rain/snow I definitely need better headlight options. Thanks in advance for the help/suggestions.

I'm literally driving to Colorado right now for my vacation. I have the Alpharex Luxx's and they've been fantastic so far. Just went through a torrential storm in western Illinois that reportedly had 70 mph winds and had no trouble cutting through the rain combined with the newer style OEM LED fog lights.

I came out of a 2018 IS350 and I would say these are pretty comparable in performance. The output is nice and even and has pretty good width. My only complaint is the cutoff is a little sharper and deeper than I'd like so I had to raise them to cover more on the left.

OEM fogs add a TON of width and good foreground light. I tend to keep the fogs off when I'm on the highway to cut down on foreground glare and preserve distance vision.

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cb1111 07-12-2020 03:13 PM

Long read but interesting and valid.

atsprink 08-22-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dajosh (Post 3516891)
I went with Kustom54 AB6’s with the Morimoto MLEDs BiLED projectors. It lights up the road really well by itself. I also upgraded the fogs with Toyota OEM LED fogs (replaced BD Squadrons which I didn’t use much). The combination is amazing.

Those look nice. I also upgraded the fog lights with the OEM LED ones as well. Thanks for the suggestion. I’m going to look at these.

Ogre75 08-22-2020 07:02 PM

I can't speak to an upgrade to the high beams, as my 30" dual row bar in the bumper takes care of that, but I could not be happier with these fog lights from Diode Dynamics. Absolutely outstanding. I got pro level, and never get blinked at, so not sure if they aren't a problem for oncoming traffic, or people just are blinded too much to reach for their high beam...lol

https://www.diodedynamics.com/stage-...light-kit.html

miamiman 08-22-2020 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mbm112 (Post 3516908)
I'm literally driving to Colorado right now for my vacation. I have the Alpharex Luxx's and they've been fantastic so far. Just went through a torrential storm in western Illinois that reportedly had 70 mph winds and had no trouble cutting through the rain combined with the newer style OEM LED fog lights.

I came out of a 2018 IS350 and I would say these are pretty comparable in performance. The output is nice and even and has pretty good width. My only complaint is the cutoff is a little sharper and deeper than I'd like so I had to raise them to cover more on the left.

OEM fogs add a TON of width and good foreground light. I tend to keep the fogs off when I'm on the highway to cut down on foreground glare and preserve distance vision.

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I was gonna ask if this works on the limited till I saw the front end. I have a nightshade and want this same exact setup! Thx


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NaiveTurtle 08-24-2020 01:08 AM

The Xenon Depot HID kit has been great for the low beams as a drop in retrofit.

For fogs, you gotta go with Diode Dynamics and their SS3 pods. Even the SS3 Sports are crazy bright and throw light way down the road in a nice wide pattern. They truly have a square cutoff which will keep oncoming traffic from flashing you. I compared to a Squadron Sport wide cornering (their typical fog) and the squadron was bright but threw light everywhere making it more of a flood and rather unusable. The SS3 put light right where it needed to be.

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Kamalani Mahie 08-24-2020 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mrblah (Post 3261740)
running HID's for low beams
2 IN 1 LEDS for fogs
switch back LED's for corners
PIAA hyper yellow halogens for Hi beams

I'm very happy with this combo.

And now this is my combo haha and I'm very happy with it.

sandcrawler 08-24-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cb1111 (Post 3517073)

yes. this.


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