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Old 04-22-2019, 04:22 PM #31
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Cargo storage and the Sliding Tray

Yea Volke, you reminded me of the other options I didn't want: The moonroof or a sliding tray. I thought I wanted the KDSS, which I still like, until I tried to add my ICON lift. The KDSS made for more work, but I got 'er done.

I think the tray is a waste of space. It takes up about 4" of space at the bottom of the cargo area, where you need all the storage capacity you can get for camping and hauling gear. If I want a platform I'll take one of the roll-up aluminum camping tables I got from REI. That's what we use when camping. It's about a 3 foot by 5 foot table. We make all of our meals on the table. I have a little table for tailgate parties.
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Hello,

Just saw this post. I have played with this quite a bit in my 2018 TRD OFF Road. First I simply cut a piece of plywood to size, covered it with some carpet pad and then some cheap black carpet from Home Depot. Had to put a few boards underneath to bring it up to height. Pretty simple and cheap. Then I bought a Exped Mega Mat duo mattress. I used this setup last summer and was super comfortable. I made similar pads for the seat backs because I wanted some padding there. Finally because I am over 6 feet tall I wanted a hair more room so I made some platforms that go in the footwells. That way I can the rear seat bottoms out (takes 2 minutes, only 4 bolts) and now the entire back is flat up to the front seats. For this summer's adventures I made two more mods. Probably the most important was the addition of a tailgate switch in the back. Was a pain in the butt always crawling out the doors when sleeping back there. Then I got the idea, as some others have done to add some drawers to the back. My though was I already have to raise it up a few inches, why not raise it up another inch or so and put in the drawers? It looks and and works great. Can't wait to sleep in It this summer. Here are some pictures:









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how deep did the drawers end up being?
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The third row are not level by any means, they're not only 3-4 inches taller than the non-third row cargo area, but the mid row seats don't fold flat and are angled upwards, not the best picture but all I had handy

Where did you get that Canvasback seat cover system?
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I was thinking of buying a pack of those foam, jigsaw type edge squares they use in kids play areas. Double layer should just about make up the difference. I believe they are about a foot and a half to two feet square and can easily be trimmed to fit.
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Where did you get that Canvasback seat cover system?
I can't tell from your photo but, do you have the rear seat bottoms folded forward? the seats definitely fold flat when you pull the bottoms up and forward.

As for height, when you pull out the carpet and foam the seats are about 5" taller than the trunk.
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I can't tell from your photo but, do you have the rear seat bottoms folded forward? the seats definitely fold flat when you pull the bottoms up and forward.

As for height, when you pull out the carpet and foam the seats are about 5" taller than the trunk.
Yes my seats are folded as flat as they go. With the third row option the bottoms don't fold up like they do in the 2 row version, the middle row folds down on top of the seat bottoms
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Honestly the easiest and cheapest way is to just make something yourself. I'm no carpenter but it only took me a weekend to build this rear platform and it has held up perfectly.

Measurements are roughly 43.25" Wide x 39" Deep x 3" Tall
That looks very clean! Nice job!
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I've received some questions on my build via PM so I thought I'd answer what I could here. I built mine myself, and I don't have any plans. I just kind of designed it as I built it. But it was pretty simple. The frame portion is made of 1" by 4"s. I just measured the length from the where the flat part of the back transitions to that slope to the back seats all the way to about 1 or 2" from the edge of the carpet. You can see in these two pics.





For the width you can see its pretty much right up against the wheel wheels on either side. Maybe 1/2" on either side or so.



Now, I was anxious to get going and got my drawer sliders from Home Depot. Consequently, the longest I could get there were 22". So that is why I have that dead space at the back. If I did it again I'd probably get longer drawer sliders and make deeper drawers. I can still use that dead space but it will be inaccessible with the back loaded. Anywho, that's why my drawers only go that deep. I then just found the middle and put another 1 by 4" lengthwise to make the divider between the two drawers. Then I made sure the middle piece was square and put a narrow strip maybe 1/2" thick or so across the top in the back. THis is really just to provide some stability to the shape (to make the drawers slide easily) and to provide a place to mount the latch catches. The drawer boxes were made with 1"x3"s. Again, I just measured off the frame I just built and cut to the proper width and depth. No fancy calculations. Installed the drawer bottoms and sliders and was on my way. For the platform that goes on top, I didn't end up affixing it to the top of the drawer box in any way. It is just sitting on top. Its heavy enough that its not going anywhere and I can just lift it up and access that dead space area I talked about when the back is empty.

Finally, you can see from this pic how much additional height there is between the top of the platform and the seat back when folded flat:




Now, this is a bit higher than it needs to be because I opted to use a pretty thick carpet pad on my platform to make it extra comfortable. But you can see I had about 2 1/2" to raise up the seat back. Its a bit less than that towards the front as you probably know the seats aren't perfectly flat. So I made these smaller platforms to go over each seat back. I used the same carpet pad and carpet so it is pretty seamless. As I said the seat back is not totally flat (a bit higher towards the front of the truck) so I put some risers on the bottom of the seat back pad that are a little taller under the back section. Hopefully you see what I am talking about in this pic of the bottom side of the seat back platform:



The final result looks like this:




So it's pretty modular in that I can keep the drawers and platform in there all the time (with the seats in their functional position) and only lose a few inches of head room in the back. Then I can fold either or both seats down and have a flat platform if I through in one or both of my seat back panels. FInally, as I mentioned in the earlier thread I built little platforms with legs so I can take the seat bottoms completely out and have over 6 feet of sleeping room back there if I want. Hope this is informative!
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After reading all the great ideas in this thread, I finally got to go camping with the TR4 for the first time over the weekend. An extra sleeping bag, folded in half, under the memory foam pad to give it lift ... problem solved. For one person, at least. Slept like a proverbial baby. K.I.S.S. works too.

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After reading all the great ideas in this thread, I finally got to go camping with the TR4 for the first time over the weekend. An extra sleeping bag, folded in half, under the memory foam pad to give it lift ... problem solved. For one person, at least. Slept like a proverbial baby. K.I.S.S. works too.

Well..Thats cheating!. You didn't even get to use power tools!. Just Kidding. I do agree that it isn't rocket science to get a quick a dirty flat space to sleep back there.

Nice work!
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Great job. I’m a hunter and this is a great idea for stowing guns and ammo. On it.
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Lot's of great ideas here! I'm considering this folding table option:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008S8ZOHA/

17.6" L x 33.9" W x 3.1" H - Should fit well for 1 person with the rear seat bottom removed, plus you have a handy camp table. Anybody tried this kind of solution?
I think that is the table I got from Home Depot (actually was the 37" one). It is the correct height, but there is a gap over the slanted part between the back of the folded down seat and the top of the table. Easy enough to stuff a towel or something in there if you are sleeping on it though. The one I got is also just a little wider than half the width of the back, so leveling the entire back wouldn't work. Fit perfectly next to my Lifetime cooler though.

It is also a low friction surface, so I had to tie everything down that was on top of it (4 medium plano boxes) so it doesn't slide all over the place. I've only had it on one trip, so it was a bit of a trial run and I tent camped, so no first hand sleeping info. I'll figure a better way of securing cargo on top for next time tough.
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My dad and I built a custom storage box that was flush with the rear seats when folded. Below is link to other forum where I posted details and pictures about it.

Sgt Keebler cargo storage build | Toyota 4Runner Forum [4Runners.com]
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