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Old 05-14-2019, 04:22 PM #61
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Lots of us here went with the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2. Its a great tire that looks aggressive but doesn't have the sound other knobby tires do. For me the difference between KOs and the Duratracs was night & day. Here is a great article that explains why the KOs are great on 4Runners.

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Final note: Toyota put the KO2s on the TRD Pro so you can look at this tire as OEM in a way.
I thought about those also, but man that price!

What did you notice was different between the stock tires vs the KO2s?
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Balancing problems are common with KO2s, if your goal is smooth driving dont get KO2s get a P tire
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I thought about those also, but man that price!

What did you notice was different between the stock tires vs the KO2s?
The biggest difference, by far, is the sound. The KO2s are IMO at least 50% quieter than my previous Duratracs. The Duratracs looked better but the KOs were not as loud and hummy. The pictures show the difference in looks, I wish they showed the difference in sound.

As far as how they ride I didn't see too much of a difference.
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The biggest difference, by far, is the sound. The KO2s are IMO at least 50% quieter than my previous Duratracs. The Duratracs looked better but the KOs were not as loud and hummy. The pictures show the difference in looks, I wish they showed the difference in sound.

As far as how they ride I didn't see too much of a difference.
Nice. Just saw this on your other reply.

I love that look of the PRO rims and those tires.
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So I dropped off my 4Runner at the dealership this morning.

Aside from taking a look at my vibration problems, they have to keep it for 4 days to fix a deep scratch one of their techs made on my vehicle.

The loaner they gave me is a 2018 4x4 SR5 4runner. I have been driving this around A LOT today to compare with mine.

I have noticed that although this one has a vibration at the steering wheel also, it is very very minor compared to mine. I could easily live with this.

I also took it off-roading today and actually was harsher on it than I have been with mine. I feel like this one felt a lot better off road and I did not get as much feedback on the steering wheel as I do with mine.

Overall it felt better than mine. Also, I had zero feedback on the brake pedals with this one when braking.

Only two things I can think of is that;

A. it has dunlop AT tires, and
B. it has 27K on it which means things are broken in by now.

I will keep you guys posted on what the dealership says.

Thanks everyone.
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Balancing problems are common with KO2s, if your goal is smooth driving dont get KO2s get a P tire
That was not my experience, much better balance on the c-rated KO2s than the stock Dunlops. I know others with similar results on a 4Runner.
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There are multi-page threads about balancing problems on the KO2
BFG KO2's Balancing Issue
BFG KO2 Specific Question
Vibration at 60mph. TRD Pro wheels and BFG KO2

etc... just google ko2 balancing issues

If zero vibrations are your goal, chose another tire
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Balancing problems are common with KO2s, if your goal is smooth driving dont get KO2s get a P tire
The key for me was finding a good tech who knows how to balance a tire. I have almost 30K on mine and they are smooth. I have C rated 265s

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There are multi-page threads about balancing problems on the KO2
BFG KO2's Balancing Issue
BFG KO2 Specific Question
Vibration at 60mph. TRD Pro wheels and BFG KO2

etc... just google ko2 balancing issues

If zero vibrations are your goal, chose another tire
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The key for me was finding a good tech who knows how to balance a tire. I have almost 30K on mine and they are smooth. I have C rated 265s

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i'm very happy with my C rated KO2's also, but it took 4 attempts to balance at 2 different discount tires. they're smooth for an AT tire, not as smooth as a P tire.
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There are multi-page threads about balancing problems on the KO2
BFG KO2's Balancing Issue
BFG KO2 Specific Question
Vibration at 60mph. TRD Pro wheels and BFG KO2

etc... just google ko2 balancing issues

If zero vibrations are your goal, chose another tire
To be fair there are multiple threads on balancing for Goodyear Duratracs as well. I'm sure we can find threads for other tires. The more I look into this the more I feel these 4Runners are finicky & delicate when it comes to slightly off balanced tires. I had a shake with my Duratracs, no shake with my KO2s.
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The key for me was finding a good tech who knows how to balance a tire. I have almost 30K on mine and they are smooth. I have C rated 265s

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This was exactly my situation. Got a good tech and finally had them balanced correctly. Diligence is the key.
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Just my .02. I learned with my 3rd gen how important a hub-centric balance was compared to a lug-centric balance. Tire shops need a hub-centric adapter to balance Toyota wheels. Of course a Toyota Dealer should know this.

I'm a 5th gen now. Haven't balanced my tires yet so I can say from experience if the hub-centric adapter is required on the 5th gen, I strongly assume it is. FWIW, I have the bridgestone duelers. They ride smooth, no steering wheel shake at all. I don't love the tire but it is smooth with no steering wheel shimmy/shake.

Make sure you're balancing is set up for hub-centric. If your balancer doesn't know what you are talking about find a place that does. The adapter is expensive but required to balance all hub-centric wheels properly.
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Just my .02. I learned with my 3rd gen how important a hub-centric balance was compared to a lug-centric balance. Tire shops need a hub-centric adapter to balance Toyota wheels. Of course a Toyota Dealer should know this.

I'm a 5th gen now. Haven't balanced my tires yet so I can say from experience if the hub-centric adapter is required on the 5th gen, I strongly assume it is. FWIW, I have the bridgestone duelers. They ride smooth, no steering wheel shake at all. I don't love the tire but it is smooth with no steering wheel shimmy/shake.

Make sure you're balancing is set up for hub-centric. If your balancer doesn't know what you are talking about find a place that does. The adapter is expensive but required to balance all hub-centric wheels properly.
This is what fixed all my 3rd gen tire issues as well. I still have the stock dunlop AT20 on my 4Runner. Doubt Iíll do much to it. I hated the ride of my lift and E tires on the 3rd gen. This 5th gen is so smooth and quiet, and actually comfortable on road.
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