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Old 10-26-2020, 01:02 PM #31
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Thank you for the comment and you are right Ryan. I was concerned about that in the beginning ,so I contacted Elka and they told me 700 lbs is what they recommend for a stock 4runner,so I chose to believe them. But we will see what happens once I put them on.


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I have the Toytec Aluma coilovers, which Elka builds. They are the same thing as yours but with different branding (from what I understand), I just didn't opt for the resis.

Mine have 700 lb springs, but I have a bumper and winch up front (and some other minor stuff like a compressor). Even with the weight, they are pretty firm. Feels fine for me, but you may be in for a bit of a surprise, it won't plush on a stock runner.





Edit: Annnnd, I just realized that the OP is pretty old.
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I was thinking the same and contacted my 4x4 shop to upgrade my lift from OME to Kings. I told them this time I want the best regardless the price tag. My 4x4 shop recommended ELKA over Kings. The reason to order ELKA was as per my shop King only give mid speed adjust ability so it will give comfort at a certain speed only. Vs ELKA you can adjust both low speed and high speed. I wanted absolute best this time so ordered ELKA.

The shop said its a 6-8week wait and hopefully the $$$ and wait time is worth. Until then I'm searching what others think about them.
Not sure why they would say that? Thats exactly what made KING the best for the last 40 years was that they could be built anyway you wanted with adjustability, they are pretty much the ones that invented the adjustability of offroad shocks. They can build them anyway you want
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I'm not saying theres anything wrong with ELKA, I've never tried them. Just saying that was a weird comparison for them to make. And until ELKA has decades of proven reliability and adjustability in the offroad world I personally will stick with what I know
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Not sure why they would say that? Thats exactly what made KING the best for the last 40 years was that they could be built anyway you wanted with adjustability, they are pretty much the ones that invented the adjustability of offroad shocks. They can build them anyway you want
King's race shocks are completely different from their oem replacement shocks that everyone runs. The Kings you'll find on 4r's do not have the range of adjustment that their race shocks do. Have a look at the performance race section of their website.

The King oem series is still a super nice shock, but to suggest that an average 4r owner is going to get a King built any way they want, or that the oem series is the same as the ones used in offroad racing is ridiculous.
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King's race shocks are completely different from their oem replacement shocks that everyone runs. The Kings you'll find on 4r's do not have the range of adjustment that their race shocks do. Have a look at the performance race section of their website.

The King oem series is still a super nice shock, but to suggest that an average 4r owner is going to get a King built any way they want, or that the oem series is the same as the ones used in offroad racing is ridiculous.

you can call King and order them how you want. i agree, they don't have dual speed adjustability like Fox or Elka tho.

They're (Fox, King, Icon, Elka, Sway Away, Toytec) all the same minus valve stacks and o-rings they prefer. and they're overkill for 99% of 4runner owners.
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you can call King and order them how you want. i agree, they don't have dual speed adjustability like Fox or Elka tho.

They're (Fox, King, Icon, Elka, Sway Away, Toytec) all the same minus valve stacks and o-rings they prefer. and they're overkill for 99% of 4runner owners.
Sure, you can call King, and sure they can built whatever you want, but you'll still be limited to a 3" body coilover of a particular length because of the suspension geometry. If you want to do a secondary shock with external bypass, you definitely get a few more options for the front end, but even still, you WILL NOT get the same performance from even a $10k 3" front end setup that you will from their full-on 4" bore, legit LT race stuff.

Argue all you want, but you can't stuff 10lbs of shit into a 5lb bag, and you will eventually hit the limits of what you can do without serious cutting and welding.
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Sure, you can call King, and sure they can built whatever you want, but you'll still be limited to a 3" body coilover of a particular length because of the suspension geometry. If you want to do a secondary shock with external bypass, you definitely get a few more options for the front end, but even still, you WILL NOT get the same performance from even a $10k 3" front end setup that you will from their full-on 4" bore, legit LT race stuff.

Argue all you want, but you can't stuff 10lbs of shit into a 5lb bag, and you will eventually hit the limits of what you can do without serious cutting and welding.
no sh1t sherlock....hows the elka that much better using stock pivot locations and uppers/lowers
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I知 looking at Elka but considering the 2.5 shocks without reservoir. I have a fair bit of weight on the rig and wanting 285/70/17 tyres. I知 trying to avoid the 2.5 resi as the price.

The Elka site states that the non resi shocks are for road use and light off-road.
I値l be doing mainly overland travel and hope to hit some trials down in Moab, Colorado, Death Valley and California. Nothing too crazy.

Would 2.5 be fine or should I stump up the extra for the resi? I want non adjustable if I do as I doubt I would ever adjust them. Trying to keep costs down as I致e spent a ton already.

Got a bumper and winch going on too.


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I知 looking at Elka but considering the 2.5 shocks without reservoir. I have a fair bit of weight on the rig and wanting 285/70/17 tyres. I知 trying to avoid the 2.5 resi as the price.

The Elka site states that the non resi shocks are for road use and light off-road.
I値l be doing mainly overland travel and hope to hit some trials down in Moab, Colorado, Death Valley and California. Nothing too crazy.

Would 2.5 be fine or should I stump up the extra for the resi? I want non adjustable if I do as I doubt I would ever adjust them. Trying to keep costs down as I致e spent a ton already.

Got a bumper and winch going on too.


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If you're looking to save money, get the Toytec Boss Aluma Series. Exact same shocks with different branding. Elka makes them.

Resi's will help keep the oil cooler in your shocks, helping to reduce shock fade. If you offroad over fast sections or for extended lengths of time, resi's will be beneficial. If you don't, don't worry about getting them.
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If you're looking to save money, get the Toytec Boss Aluma Series. Exact same shocks with different branding. Elka makes them.

Resi's will help keep the oil cooler in your shocks, helping to reduce shock fade. If you offroad over fast sections or for extended lengths of time, resi's will be beneficial. If you don't, don't worry about getting them.
I've been looking at both of these, and try as I might, I don't see anything on the Toytec site that compares with these from Elka:

2.5 IFP FRONT & REAR SHOCKS KIT for TOYOTA 4RUNNER, 2010 to 2020 (with KDSS) (0 in. to 2 in. lift) >> Elka Suspension Inc

This configuration is for use with stock geometry and can accommodate 0 in. to 2 in. of lift with either stock or aftermarket upper control arms.


Everything I've found on the Toytec Aluma Series is 2"-3" of lift...it could be I just don't know where to look. If the Aluma Series had something comparable, I think I might just go with those...not everyone wants to start at 2" of lift.
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I've been looking at both of these, and try as I might, I don't see anything on the Toytec site that compares with these from Elka:

2.5 IFP FRONT & REAR SHOCKS KIT for TOYOTA 4RUNNER, 2010 to 2020 (with KDSS) (0 in. to 2 in. lift) >> Elka Suspension Inc

This configuration is for use with stock geometry and can accommodate 0 in. to 2 in. of lift with either stock or aftermarket upper control arms.


Everything I've found on the Toytec Aluma Series is 2"-3" of lift...it could be I just don't know where to look. If the Aluma Series had something comparable, I think I might just go with those...not everyone wants to start at 2" of lift.
Good catch! I hadn't noticed that.

It looks like Toytec only offers shocks with the 2-3" lift option while Elka has both 0-2" and 2-3". It might be worth an email to toytec to see if they might have the 0-2" as an option in the near future.

I too would want the 0-2" shocks.

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Good catch! I hadn't noticed that.

It looks like Toytec only offers shocks with the 2-3" lift option while Elka has both 0-2" and 2-3". It might be worth an email to toytec to see if they might have the 0-2" as an option in the near future.

I too would want the 0-2" shocks.
Good idea. Email sent to Toytec.
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Good catch! I hadn't noticed that.

It looks like Toytec only offers shocks with the 2-3" lift option while Elka has both 0-2" and 2-3". It might be worth an email to toytec to see if they might have the 0-2" as an option in the near future.

I too would want the 0-2" shocks.
I just heard back from Anthony Nguyen @ Toytec:

"Unfortunately we do not have the 0 to 2, it'll just be the 2-3 from us with our systems"

So, no 0"-2" available from Toytec in the Aluma Boss system. Too bad.
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So I decided to give Elka a try since I don't see many folks have that kit on their rigs.
Plus, these are made of aluminum to battle against harsh chemicals in winter and I live in Canada where winter lasts about 8 months in my area. I also realized that parts would be easier for me to get when I rebuild/maintain them since they are made in Canada.

I have a 2017 Limited and my goal is to make it look leveled and have better performance than the Fox setup on the 2019 trd pro while off-roading. This may sound weird but I always wanted to have a trd pro but eventually, I realized it is all just marketing and my limited has things that are more useful than what a trd pro can provide such as full-time 4wd and dual climate control, so I decided to turn my limited into an unlimited.

I didn't get dual compression adjuster since I knew I would be too lazy to play with them down the road (hopefully I won't regret not getting them in the future). I will keep you updated as soon as I puyt them on as I am still waiting for FN six shooters to come so I can install the tires and suspension all at once. For the tires, I went with Falken Wildpeak AT3 P265/70/17.
Long term thoughts? What style of off loading do you do?

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