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Our bump stops are designed to hit square and reduce the impact of the bump. Let us know if you have any other questions!
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Thanks for the response! Forgive me if this seems like a silly question, so is there a good average distance you should have from the bottom of the stop to the top of the dif? I mean, there must be an optimal distance. It seems that too much or too little distance and you don't get the full "active" benefit, right? Understanding of course that there other factors involved but most of this generation truck lifts range from 0-3" so using those as baseline is pretty acceptable IMO, only outliers are lifting in the +4" range.
Like this FJ has what looks like a 2" spacer, of course we have no idea what lift they are running apart from the fact they stuffed 37's on it (outlier )
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11-13-2020, 05:15 PM
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I installed the energy suspension bump stops in the front a few days ago. Only able to do street testing for now, but I did take some sections of the road at a speed that I knew would cause contact between the bump stops and LCAs and things felt relatively normal, no harsh bottom out like I would have expected with the OE stops. Feels more stable taking turns now as well.
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I took it on a few quick off road sessions over the past weekend, and it does feel like the compressions are more controlled now. There's a section of drop off that used to feel more sudden, where now even though I went over a lot quicker than I usually do felt more squishy/controlled.
I'm trying to understand if this is a job that a better suspension could be doing. Wouldn't better suspension be able to give the same feel of a controlled stop ? is adding progressive bump stops a way to get the feeling of a better suspension ?
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11-13-2020, 07:00 PM
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Anyone looking for a pair of toyota rears?
I ordered 2 of one side by mistake. Since I needed the other side still, I ordered 2 so I'd have matching sets.
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11-16-2020, 01:31 PM
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I bet some photos of your 4Runner products would be greatly appreciated. If you have a side by side with OEM I think that would give everyone some good perspective also
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Here is a good side by side you were looking for!
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11-16-2020, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the response! Forgive me if this seems like a silly question, so is there a good average distance you should have from the bottom of the stop to the top of the dif? I mean, there must be an optimal distance. It seems that too much or too little distance and you don't get the full "active" benefit, right? Understanding of course that there other factors involved but most of this generation truck lifts range from 0-3" so using those as baseline is pretty acceptable IMO, only outliers are lifting in the +4" range.
Like this FJ has what looks like a 2" spacer, of course we have no idea what lift they are running apart from the fact they stuffed 37's on it (outlier )
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These are great questions! Roughly there is 4-6 inches between the bottom of the stop to the top of the dif. Where the active comes in is when it begins to squish, taking strain off the springs and dampening the bump. Our bumps have enough flex in them to go almost flat. OEM bumps have no squish and are much higher putting more strain on your suspension and spring setup. Does this give you the answers to your questions?
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11-16-2020, 01:47 PM
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Here is a good side by side you were looking for!
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Thanks for the picture and your replies. I think this will really help everyone make good decisions.
Can you speak to "extended" bump stops? There are lots of opinions on this topic. Is extension a necessity? Would you consider your bump stops extended with the additional active (compression) aspect?
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11-16-2020, 06:46 PM
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Anyone looking for a pair of toyota rears?
I ordered 2 of one side by mistake. Since I needed the other side still, I ordered 2 so I'd have matching sets.
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11-16-2020, 07:36 PM
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11-17-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by comtn4x4
Thanks for the picture and your replies. I think this will really help everyone make good decisions.
Can you speak to "extended" bump stops? There are lots of opinions on this topic. Is extension a necessity? Would you consider your bump stops extended with the additional active (compression) aspect?
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You can interpret an extended bump a few different ways. The sheer size of our bump stops could be considered as extended especially with how short OEM bumps are anything bigger could be considered extended. As long as they perform the way they are intended and actually make a difference then that's all you need. Ours definitely cover a large amount of space for a number of different applications and suspension setups.
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08-19-2021, 06:45 PM
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Wheeler's SuperBumps up front and ICON hydraulic bump stops in the rear (in coil setup).
Pros:
Superbumps: decent price, works great at softening harsh impacts
ICON: works great at softening harsh impacts or when carrying heavy loads over bumps, adjustable height
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Superbumps: large enough to almost always be on contact at stock or mild lift. I'd prefer something shorter to allow the suspension to do it's job
ICON: $$$, location in the rear coil is not ideal.
pics 1&2 are front superbumps. Pic 3 is ICON hydro bump vs stock bump stop. Pic 4 is ICON hydro bump installed
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If you had to do it all over again, would you still buy the icon hydrobumps for the rear?
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08-21-2021, 05:47 AM
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If you had to do it all over again, would you still buy the icon hydrobumps for the rear?
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For my main off-road use (high speed /off-road in the desert): Yes. Especially for a heavy rear end with bumper/ tire carrier where the vehicle bottoms-out harshly with bumps.
For anyone who mainly off-roads other than this (i.e. trail use, overland driving, crawling) it's not worth the added cost.
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09-19-2021, 05:20 PM
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For my main off-road use (high speed /off-road in the desert): Yes. Especially for a heavy rear end with bumper/ tire carrier where the vehicle bottoms-out harshly with bumps.
For anyone who mainly off-roads other than this (i.e. trail use, overland driving, crawling) it's not worth the added cost.
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You sold me on dem hydrobumps...
going to run them in conjunction with the timbrens.
thanks for the advice broski.
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09-19-2021, 06:33 PM
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You sold me on dem hydrobumps...
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09-19-2021, 06:35 PM
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dem is oil not water
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09-19-2021, 06:39 PM
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Lol I got the email for the thread update (didn’t have the image) and I was like hyrdobumps, someone’s making a water filled bump stop, the fq is dat.
Could you image the wintertime calamity if you had frozen solid bumps stops
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