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Old 05-23-2019, 03:53 PM #16
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I don't like where the ignition switch is located, as others have noted the passenger seat belt bangs around with the windows open, the rain that gets on the seats when you open the door in the rain and no automatic light feature. This is inexcusable in any new car. I know this is a pretty basic vehicle but c'mon! I also would like throttle response to be better, you really have to nail it to get it to get up and go. Should be better from the factory without having to spend over $200 for an after marked gizmo like a Sprint Booster.
These are not huge things and otherwise I really like it and have no regrets buying it.
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How hard is your life that not having automatic headlights is a valid complaint. A lot of the complaints I've seen are reasons why I love my truck. Only thing I can't comment on is comfort for tall people. I'm short so things are just fine for me.
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Old school 5 speed transmission, cr*p on mountain highways but I'm sure you know that already.
I think it's ****ing exceptional when compared to the tacos 6 speed. That thing is a gear hunting heap of ****ing trash.

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Here's a nitpick: On my TRDOR the "double click" to unlock the rest of the doors (one click to unlock the drivers door only) on the key fob is sensitive to timing.

The first click should unlock the drivers door, or all of them (why not?).
The second click should unlock the rest REGARDLESS OF TIMING. This is how my Xterra was.
I frustratingly often find myself trying to open a locked passenger door or rear hatch, usually in a driving rainstorm, trying to double click "correctly".

Click.click. Nope
Click......click. Nope.
Clickclickclickclickclick. Nope
Click...click. There we go!
I agree it's mad annoying. You need a little ditty to play in your head while you do it. In my head I literally say beep pause beep and now I don't have problems... but your right it's absolutely the dumbest ****ing thing on this truck.



My gripes:

Stock headlights are ****ing trash. Base corolla side by side will make it seem like you taped a mag light to your hood.

Electric throttle pedal leaves much to be desired even with a sprint booster or pedal commander (Get one BTW it helps a ton)

TRD OR Valances are not molded into the bumper and rip off with moderate trail use. (Lost my rear going through some mud) I will not be replacing them and will just live with the shit look until I get steel or SR5 plastics.

Stock suspension was lazily engineered IMO. On the non pros the front is like an inch too low which makes it looks ****ing stupid, my front skid plate is just low enough to get ****ing worked on the trails, and just "why?". Brake dive of a 70's cadillac (which decreases stopping distances and increases the chance of a lock up under sudden/emergency braking.

Steering wheel doesn't telescope out enough (of its class to include full sized pickups it's actually the best option). Plenty of cars make it happen, why is it that every vehicle that a tall person might buy it's not an option?

Head unit is good enough but for 40K I would expect a lot better. I drove a tesla twice and now everything that's not like that I poo poo because honestly it should be the standard now. But our head unit is better then the one in a lamborghini huracan so there's that... I guess.

That's all my real gripes. I have some petty stuff like I don't like how quiet the exhaust and intake are and would like more driver feedback (pedal feel and noise). But those are not really things I would expect out of a bone stock vehicle of this kind.

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Here's a nitpick: On my TRDOR the "double click" to unlock the rest of the doors (one click to unlock the drivers door only) on the key fob is sensitive to timing.

The first click should unlock the drivers door, or all of them (why not?).
The second click should unlock the rest REGARDLESS OF TIMING. This is how my Xterra was.
I frustratingly often find myself trying to open a locked passenger door or rear hatch, usually in a driving rainstorm, trying to double click "correctly".

Click.click. Nope
Click......click. Nope.
Clickclickclickclickclick. Nope
Click...click. There we go!
That might be a dealer-adjustable setting. Not sure.
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most of my dislikes are so much overwhelmed by my likes so its not worth mentioning..

gear hunting while going over passes.. terrible fuel mileage... those would be my two but honestly its not that big of a deal.
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I wish Toyota offered a model that has the Limited features in a TRD Off-Road trim. I wanted full-time 4WD, auto climate control, auto headlights and push buttom start so I ended up with a Limited. However, I would prefer no chrome, 17" wheels and the front and rear clip of the TRD.

On my Limited I wish I had Apple Carplay, better headlights, auto closing lift gate, blind spot monitoring, memory for the mirrors and a more powerful drive train. Coming from fully load 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks the 4Runner is lacking in features.
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Ceiling vents in the back. The rear seats are always folded down and the ventilation is terrible with that setup.
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The main reason why I opted for a basic MT FJ Cruiser and now an Sr5 4runner was for the lack of features and S**t that can break or throw a code.

That the 4runner could be better and have more features.... sure. Every car will have stuff that can or could be better. I bought proven reliability.

that said, I can align with the comment about buying a sprint booster or pedal commander. I did to try it out and love my PD.

For the rest of the stuff: (randonly and not picking on anyone)

weak projectors: get a set of HIDs 6000K -- you will love the light output
Auto headlights: don't be lazy
remote control: I have yet to have an issue opening my doors
auto closing lift gate: another S***T that can break... $$$$.. no thank you
blind spot: would be nice but have yet to have an issue... even when I had the FJ "worst visibility ever" some people claim. People need to learn how to properly adjust mirrors... you are not supposed to see you own vehicle
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2018 ORP. Who came up with the idea of gloss interior parts that catch and reflect every ray of sunlight and scratch when you look at them.
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-TSS should have been added years ago
-less rake, more level stock stance
-Should come with bigger tires
-Every model should come standard with the current pro suspension
-Pros should come with a raptor-like package with coilovers, a wider stance, and flared body panels
-Auto headlights
-Climate control
-Apple car play

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Same as always:

Auto headlights - WTF toyota??? Clearly it's supposed to have them. The wiring is already there and the dash is molded for the sensor. The biggest annoyance is the non-dimming screen on the infotainment. I added the camry sensor to the dash and solved that problem. Now I just leave the headlight switch on 24/7. Problem mostly solved.

Shitty headlights. They just are. The halogen projectors are not bright enough.

5speed transmission. The A750F is nearly identical to the a760F - shares the same gear train. Toyota builds a 6 speed but only gives us 5 of the gears to use. WTF Toyota? why didn't you update the valve set to make it a 6AT. The cost difference is nearly zero. Give us 6 gears and 4.30 diffs. That's what it should have. Cost is a non-issue. I don't understand this choice.

Offer KDSS on a limited. I want a limited interior - and KDSS. So I had to choose either a GX460 or a OR Premium. I opted for the OR Premium.

Front alignment. There is not enough range of adjustment in the lower control arm to compensate for moderate lifts. I know this isn't part of the typical design criteria - but how hard could it be to give us enough starting caster so we can lift and still get a good alignment without aftermarket UCAs?

Auto Climate control. The electronic thermostat was invented about 100 years ago. Kinda seems like it should be a std feature to me.

Those are mostly my issues. They're pretty minor really.
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Only had mine since April and 2,500 miles, but so far I’m not crazy about the sensitivity to less than perfect tires and wheel balancing.

I thought the Entune with Nav would work for me. Coming from a Ford with Sync 3 and Carplay I ended up really hating Entune! After a bunch of tutorials and training the system just doesn’t understand most of what I’m saying. I speak English as my first language and I have no accent. It works about 60% of the time only when the car isn’t moving. At highway speed when I need it most, it’s probably less than 20%. Just installed a Kenwood head unit with wireless Carplay. Will start a thread once I get everything figured out. So far LOVING IT!

Not in love with the cup holder/shifter area. Compared to my wife’s ‘15 Pilot and my old Tundra and ‘17 F150. The T4R layout sucks!

I love the “truckiness” of the T4R and most of the old school simplicity. Just wish the head unit had Carplay from the factory. I can live with the rest of my not so favorite stuff.

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Whew! Agree with everything. I will add lack of tilt adjustment on the passenger seat. Feel like I am sliding out of it when my wife drives. Even a manual adjust would have been great. I guess my lift will help a little when reducing the rake. Back seat is better for me at least.
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That reminds me. The cupholder sleeves. Its always either stuck on my bottle or too small for anything else.
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2019 Limited here. Headlights suck without a bulb upgrade. USB Audio needs to move from the dash to the center console. Entune sucks and the apps serve no purpose. Carpet feels like cardboard......but I would buy it again.
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