05-25-2019, 10:40 AM
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For the newish 2.0 turbo the entire engine and turbo were designed and manufactured in house. They seem to be very durable and long lasting. I'd expect the same from the turbo v6 tundra. People complain about the EcoBoost reliability, but forget that Ford v8 engines are also garbage. Maybe it's not the turbo that's the problem...
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05-25-2019, 12:42 PM
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For the newish 2.0 turbo the entire engine and turbo were designed and manufactured in house. They seem to be very durable and long lasting. I'd expect the same from the turbo v6 tundra. People complain about the EcoBoost reliability, but forget that Ford v8 engines are also garbage. Maybe it's not the turbo that's the problem...
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Meh. every make has issues. i currently have the infamous ford 5.4 in my 2001 f150, the motor runs strong as ever, used as a landscape work truck so i abuse it too...
smaller motors and turbos are the future, and they've gotten to be pretty reliable. I say that as Ford is bring back a 7.3 for their super duties, (gas 7.3 at that) lol. also they're doing a supercharged v8 for the new raptors....
the toyota 5.7's are sweet, but like the 4.0 in these 4runners, incredibly inefficient. But you don't buy these vehicles for fuel mileage
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05-25-2019, 03:09 PM
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The EcoBoost was only designed for a 10 year 170k mile lifespan. That may be part of the reason they're not lasting 300k miles. They were never really intended to. Ford published this when the introduced them and then took down the paper in it. But you can still find all the old news about it.
Hard to argue with the performance - at least new. The car and driver long term test raptor lost something like 50+hp by the end of the first year when the retested it. It also lost significant time in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile tests. I hope that's not reflective of the general experience with them.
I rented a mustang a few months ago. After a week I was kinda thinking about buying one. So I guess I liked the little turbo 4. More so than the nx200t I had as a loaner. I'd take a well built turbo engine. Might even consider buying a tundra with the turbo if the mpg is good.
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05-25-2019, 03:27 PM
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I don’t agree that the vehicle world is moving to high mpg/hybrid/ev. Big SUVs are popular again. Gas isn’t that expensive. I think I heard Ford cut production on pretty much all cars and ramping up trucks and suvs. I see so many Tahoe’s and Yukon’s on the road now than ever.
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I have to agree with you on this. Its not about the "vehicle world" moving towards something, its strictly the US EPA "making" manufactures compliant. Lets hope some of these ridiculous regulations get lifted.
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05-25-2019, 06:03 PM
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I believe there was another forum regarding the tundra , Tacoma and 4Runner all on the same frame . V6 twin turbo 4Runner possibilities? As for the rumor on v6 twin turbo I’m in. Awaiting release of the bronco and next gen tundra , will probably end up with one of these. Wife loves the 17 4Runner
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05-26-2019, 12:11 AM
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As far as engines...gotta love the old simple pushrod GM 6.2
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05-26-2019, 03:31 AM
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As the old saying goes for a lot of reasons - there is no replacement for displacement!
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05-26-2019, 07:46 AM
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As far as engines...gotta love the old simple pushrod GM 6.2
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It’s not quite that simple anymore. The active fuel management garbage causes collapsed lifters. If they removed that stuff it would actually be a fantastic engine.
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05-26-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetboy
The EcoBoost was only designed for a 10 year 170k mile lifespan. That may be part of the reason they're not lasting 300k miles. They were never really intended to. Ford published this when the introduced them and then took down the paper in it. But you can still find all the old news about it.
Hard to argue with the performance - at least new. The car and driver long term test raptor lost something like 50+hp by the end of the first year when the retested it. It also lost significant time in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile tests. I hope that's not reflective of the general experience with them.
I rented a mustang a few months ago. After a week I was kinda thinking about buying one. So I guess I liked the little turbo 4. More so than the nx200t I had as a loaner. I'd take a well built turbo engine. Might even consider buying a tundra with the turbo if the mpg is good.
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My buddy has the same motor in his Focus RS, he loves that thing.
There was a similar article floating around about the nissan/cummins 5.0. Lets not go down the "nissan" road though. I might trigger some PTSD about my old titan
I'd say majority of stuff out there now is meant to last a certain time limit and then be tossed. Simply cause it's so cheap to build and people go through vehicles every couple years. (majority of people). Plus, business can't make money if they build products that are forever reliable and never obsolete.
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05-26-2019, 10:24 AM
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The engine i would like to see in the 4 runner would be a V8 made out of the 2.0 TGE. Currently this engine make 169hp/151ft-lbs let say they will be making it with longer strokes since the 4 runner doesn’t need to rev as high as a Corolla so a 4.2L. Then we could expect something like 310hp/320ft-lbs out of a highly efficient engine.
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05-26-2019, 11:00 AM
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It’s not quite that simple anymore. The active fuel management garbage causes collapsed lifters. If they removed that stuff it would actually be a fantastic engine.
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True... I meant to put quotes around the word simple. But, it is still a straightforward pushrod V8. I knew the cylinder deactivation had caused issues on the 5.3, but had not heard about it on 6.2
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05-26-2019, 12:48 PM
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If 30mpg is true I'll probably buy one, I like the idea of v6 twin turbo, can always tune the car for more HP & tq. I would prefer a crewcab over a full size suv. Itll be more of a family hauler and some weekend house projects.
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