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Old 06-06-2019, 01:35 PM #16
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they are hub centric, go look at your lug nuts - they are normal flat washer style nuts

the haweka adapter has nothing to do with lug centric or hub centric, a centering cone is still used. the purpose of the haweka adapter is to provide even pressure to the wheel to make sure it is on the cone correctly. it is not a lug-centering tool. if the wheel isn't perfectly centered on the balancing cone your results will be off, the haweka adapter helps make sure it is centered on the cone by providing even pressure all around.

i'm think all toyota alloys are hub centric, but i don't know enough about the various wheels offered to make an absolute statement
Interesting.

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If I remember correctly, TRD Pro wheels are not.

I could be totally wrong here though.
My Pro Wheels are most certainly hub centric.
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All Toyota Truck wheels need the flange plate adapter used on lug-centric wheels.

I see others have a different opinion. I don't want to argue. But Toyota literally says, a flange plate must be used. I guess it doesn't matter if the wheel is actually lug or hub centric. Just use the flange plate and it will eliminate the steering wheel wobble.
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that TSB explains what I am talking about, the wheel is hub centric and uses a centering cone and the purpose of the flange plate is to make sure it is mounted properly. the plate does not center the wheel, the cone does.
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As the wing nut is tightened, equal pressure is automatically applied to each stud forcing the wheel to perfectly mount on the balancer
the purpose of the adapter is to evenly sit the wheel on the centering cone.

one of the directions is to verify that the cone sits on the "hub-centric portion of the wheel." the flange plate just makes sure everything sits evenly on the cone.

the technician should also do a centering check which is easy to do on the hunter and i assume other machines
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My Pro Wheels are most certainly hub centric.
Ah okay, well that's good to know. Can't recall why I thought they weren't but thought it was strange for an OEM wheel.
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One thing that has helped with balancing for me is to get the shop to line up the heavy spot on the tire with the valve stem. If they are marked anyway.
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The misconception is that the Haweka adapter is for lug centric wheels. It is actually used to put equal force as if they were mounted to the car.

Toyota aluminum alloy 6 lug trucks wheels are all hub centric.

However the 6 lug steel wheels on base model Tacomas are lug centric (which T4R don't have to be concerned about)
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That will absolutely make a huge difference sometimes!

I'd say OP issues are with the tires. My original Nittos started getting pretty bad after the 40K mark. Just installed GY 285 Duratracs and they are completely smooth. OP this may sound off, but have you tried balancing them with a non-roadforce machine? A buddy of mine that has been doing tires for a long time told me that sometimes roadforce is not the way to go on larger more aggressive tires.
My best balance on my Duratracs was done on a Hunter non-road force balancing machine from America's Tire. I believe the model was called Quick Match. I still had all sorts vibration problems when the first America's tire kept doing it on the latest and greatest Hunter GSP 9700 Elite road force machine.
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My best balance on my Duratracs was done on a Hunter non-road force balancing machine from America's Tire. I believe the model was called Quick Match. I still had all sorts vibration problems when the first America's tire kept doing it on the latest and greatest Hunter GSP 9700 Elite road force machine.
Good to know. Mine were done on a Hunter non-road force machine as well.
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