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Should I get Goodyear Ultra Terrain AT or Duratracs?
So after multiple re-balancing of the stock Dunlop AT20's, they finally approved to have them replaced. It can be any Dunlop or Goodyear tires.
I was thinking of either getting the Goodyear Ultra Terrain AT or Duratracs in 265/70/17 to go with my TRD Pro wheels.
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06-11-2019, 02:13 PM
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I see you're in California, if you don't drive in snow conditions you don't need Duratracs. They are great in those conditions, but there's better AT's if that's not where you'll be using them.
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06-11-2019, 02:16 PM
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I see you're in California, if you don't drive in snow conditions you don't need Duratracs. They are great in those conditions, but there's better AT's if that's not where you'll be using them.
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I'll be going to Tahoe from time to time. But my choices are limited because I can only get Dunlop or Goodyear tires as replacements since Goodyear is covering the replacement. So I cannot get BFG KO2 even if wanted to.
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06-11-2019, 02:49 PM
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I had the UltraTerrains in load range E before switching to Ridge Grapplers.
I had absolutely zero issues or qualms running the UltraTerrains. They were a relatively quiet, and very comfortable tire. I took them snow wheeling at least 5 times and they did great.
I chose them over the Duratracs because I was looking for the Duratrac wet and snow performance without the Duratrac noise and wear characteristics. The UT's were/are a relatively new tire and I figured that Goodyear probably implemented improvements to it based on what they've gathered from the Duratrac over the years. Luckily, I found these tires to have met my expectations. They were some of the most surefooted AT tires in the rain that I've driven on.
That being said, some may look down on them due to lack of information/reviews on them, and because they are Discount Tire/America's Tire exclusives. TacomaWorld has a big thread on them if you want to read some real world reviews.
I went to the Ridge Grapplers for their size availability, sidewall strength, and aesthetics. But I do not feel as confident in them in rain or on snow as I did with the UT's.
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06-11-2019, 02:53 PM
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It all comes down to how much wheeling you’re doing. If it’s only occasional, the U/Ts may be better. The Duratracs offer more aggressive treads with great off road traction but at a price. That includes more noise (significantly more as they wear per reports), worse MPGs and weight compromise. Plus the Duratracs have a notoriously weak sidewall despite their popularity. There are a lot of reports of blown sidewalls. It’s a known weakness of the tire.
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Originally Posted by Hans Moleman
I'll be going to Tahoe from time to time. But my choices are limited because I can only get Dunlop or Goodyear tires as replacements since Goodyear is covering the replacement. So I cannot get BFG KO2 even if wanted to.
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You could go with whatever is worth more/easier to sell, and unload them right away, and replace with whatever you wanted.
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I had the UltraTerrains in load range E before switching to Ridge Grapplers.
I had absolutely zero issues or qualms running the UltraTerrains. They were a relatively quiet, and very comfortable tire. I took them snow wheeling at least 5 times and they did great.
I chose them over the Duratracs because I was looking for the Duratrac wet and snow performance without the Duratrac noise and wear characteristics. The UT's were/are a relatively new tire and I figured that Goodyear probably implemented improvements to it based on what they've gathered from the Duratrac over the years. Luckily, I found these tires to have met my expectations. They were some of the most surefooted AT tires in the rain that I've driven on.
That being said, some may look down on them due to lack of information/reviews on them, and because they are Discount Tire/America's Tire exclusives. TacomaWorld has a big thread on them if you want to read some real world reviews.
I went to the Ridge Grapplers for their size availability, sidewall strength, and aesthetics. But I do not feel as confident in them in rain or on snow as I did with the UT's.
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Thanks for your feedback. I have Duratracs on my Tacoma and I agree wet traction is not so good. Yes the lack of reviews on America's tire is why I made this thread (I guess I missed the big thread on Tacomworld lol).
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It all comes down to how much wheeling you’re doing. If it’s only occasional, the U/Ts may be better. The Duratracs offer more aggressive treads with great off road traction but at a price. That includes more noise (significantly more as they wear per reports), worse MPGs and weight compromise. Plus the Duratracs have a notoriously weak sidewall despite their popularity. There are a lot of reports of blown sidewalls. It’s a known weakness of the tire.
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Looking at the specs of U/T and Duratracs in P-metric, both are close in weight. U/T is 44lbs and Duratrac is 45lbs.
I sure hope U/T are more uniform and easier to balance than Duratracs. With my Tacoma, I had Duratrac load range C's which were horrible to balance and cupped. They were replaced under warranty but load range E's were installed by mistake. However the load range E's don't have any vibration problems at all so I decided just to keep them.
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I have Duratracs on my TRD Pro wheels and yes, the lack of wet traction is but they did perform well on the beach recently. They have a shake at 60 - 70mph which is annoying, will ask dealer to address it at the 5k miles service.
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I have Duratracs on my TRD Pro wheels and yes, the lack of wet traction is but they did perform well on the beach recently. They have a shake at 60 - 70mph which is annoying, will ask dealer to address it at the 5k miles service.
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Good luck. The 60mph steering wheels shake is why my original Dunlop AT20's are being replaced.
After checking around some more, the Ultra Terrains seem like a good tire and not really complaints about vibration problems on Tacomaworld.
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06-12-2019, 02:34 PM
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I have the Duratracs and love them. I ran 2 sets on my 3rd gen and they are awesome. Put them on my current 5th gen the first week I had it. They ride great and last better than anything I’ve tried before.
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I'm getting Duratracs installed on my 3rd gen t4r as we speak, so I hope your positive review outweighs all the negative things people have said. Honestly I didn't do much research before buying them. They were on sale, and had 4 out of 5 stars on the site I bought them from, so we'll see!
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My vote for Duratracs
I've had three sets of Duratracs on my 3/4 truck, 285/75-16, E load, for 135000 miles or so. They've been good for me. I will be putting 285/70-17 E loads on my 4Runner here shortly. I can't speak for the durability of the C or D load tires.
Yes, they are definitely noisier than standard AT-type tires. Yes, you will need to have them rotated and balanced about every 4000 miles. Discount tire and Goodyear tire stores usually offer free balance and rotation if you buy the tires through them, but verify that policy with them.
Even if you don't use their service, rotate them on that schedule and they noise and balance won't get out of control.
They are great in the snow, dirt roads, and I've picked up a screw, nail, and piece of wire, none of which were able to puncture the tire. Wet traction isn't great, but isn't terrible either. I've been driving a pickup with a light ass-end and tons of torque for 15 years, so my experience may not equal others' experiences.
Either way, both good choices.
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So I picked the Ultra Terrains. I'm going to get them installed on my TRD Pro wheels this weekend. It's the perfect timing because I've had these wheels sitting in my garage for like 2 months after getting them from the TRD 40% off sale.
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Good luck. The 60mph steering wheels shake is why my original Dunlop AT20's are being replaced.
After checking around some more, the Ultra Terrains seem like a good tire and not really complaints about vibration problems on Tacomaworld.
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I had Duratracs on my TRD OR and hated them. They were loud and the shake at 60 mph was too much to bear. So much that I bit the bullet and put on KO2s. I still feel a slight shake at 55-60 mph but its much less noticeable and sometimes even goes away. Why would that be? All I can think of is the tires got warm.
I will say this about the duratracs, they look awesome. I had them on my V8 4th Gen for a year before that truck flooded and never had a balance issue then, although they were loud. Took them off the 4th gen and put them on my 5th gen and the shake was bad. Bad bad bad.
Here is my truck with the Duratracs. Again, they look awesome but I were to tell you that as you sat in my passenger seat going 40 mph you wouldn't be able to hear me. Good luck.
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