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Old 06-24-2019, 08:55 PM #46
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Still going to definitely stop in and take a look st a 4runner before crossing it out but doesn’t look promising. A shame since this was the best chance I had at getting into one. One kid too many lol
Check out the Sequoia too. It may be dated, but they are great, often overlooked SUVs.
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Wow- what a bunch of softies. "too cramped, can't haul stuff, etc.'' When I was a kid, we had a family of 6 traveling from Grafton, ND to Torreon, Coahilia, Mexico in a 1984 Pontiac Sunbird, 4 cylinder, 4door. Google maps says one way trip was 1942 miles, or 3884 miles round trip! We had a hard case cargo carrier on the roof, the trunk fill to the max and my 3 annoying sisters and myself in the backseat! I would not hesitate to haul of family of 5 in my 4th Gen. But, this is America where everyone is overweight so it might get a little cramped if everyone is chubby and you're hauling stuff.
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Haha, a bit of an extreme example but I get the point. I’m not giving up all hope yet!
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My wife has the QX56 - the Infiniti version of the Armada. She won't give it up for anything and it has been painless, plus has a ton of room. Problem is, the newest gen (either 2011 or 2012+) has some major engine issues. We got her the older gen (2010) just to avoid those.

But she is almost 50 and says it's her favorite car that she has had in her entire life. We bought it with about 80k on it, it now has 131k. Only real issue has been a starter which of course they put under the intake manifold so it's a $6-700 job at an independent mechanic. Everything else has been pretty solid. It eats belts and brakes and tires (heavy car, heavy foot), and the windows are slow, other than that its fine for the job.
lol my mom has a 2011 and it had the timing chain issue. Was not cheap. Other then that its been bulletproof. she's put like 180k miles on it, bought it new. She also refuses to get anything else. That thing is a rocket
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Wow- what a bunch of softies. "too cramped, can't haul stuff, etc.'' When I was a kid, we had a family of 6 traveling from Grafton, ND to Torreon, Coahilia, Mexico in a 1984 Pontiac Sunbird, 4 cylinder, 4door. Google maps says one way trip was 1942 miles, or 3884 miles round trip! We had a hard case cargo carrier on the roof, the trunk fill to the max and my 3 annoying sisters and myself in the backseat! I would not hesitate to haul of family of 5 in my 4th Gen. But, this is America where everyone is overweight so it might get a little cramped if everyone is chubby and you're hauling stuff.
We've all been there, but I think this is more of a what-are-you-coming-from situation. To go from your example car to a 4r is one thing to go from something bigger to a 4r is completely different imo.
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A slightly used Sequoia?
Yes Sequoia. Go with this. Not any of that FCA shit
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lol my mom has a 2011 and it had the timing chain issue. Was not cheap. Other then that its been bulletproof. she's put like 180k miles on it, bought it new. She also refuses to get anything else. That thing is a rocket
the 17+ Aramads have the newer 5.6 that doesnt seem to have any issues
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my cousin has 4 kiddos between 3-12 and they roll a 3rd Gen Ford Expedition for trips when not using their RV. it's been more than a few years, but when they bought they got used and i think they paid around $35k for an Eddie Bauer with 4WD and like 30k miles on it.
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Wow- what a bunch of softies. "too cramped, can't haul stuff, etc.'' When I was a kid, we had a family of 6 traveling from Grafton, ND to Torreon, Coahilia, Mexico in a 1984 Pontiac Sunbird, 4 cylinder, 4door. Google maps says one way trip was 1942 miles, or 3884 miles round trip! We had a hard case cargo carrier on the roof, the trunk fill to the max and my 3 annoying sisters and myself in the backseat! I would not hesitate to haul of family of 5 in my 4th Gen. But, this is America where everyone is overweight so it might get a little cramped if everyone is chubby and you're hauling stuff.
Yeah things have definitely changed. In 1979 my mom, dad and 9-year-old me took a month long camping road trip to the Pacific Northwest and across Western Canada - in a tiny 2-door Lancia Beta Coupe!

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lol my mom has a 2011 and it had the timing chain issue. Was not cheap. Other then that its been bulletproof. she's put like 180k miles on it, bought it new. She also refuses to get anything else. That thing is a rocket
Bingo. That's the issue. Timing chain tensioner/oiler or something. Basically a new engine needed at low mileage.
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the 17+ Aramads have the newer 5.6 that doesnt seem to have any issues
yet the new titan 5.6's are having long blocks replaced

the OG 5.6 is bulletproof. The rest of the truck is a literal dumpster fire.
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I carried three kids in the backseat of a 2004 4runner for years. The main gripes were from the youngest on long trips because he was usually in the middle and didn't have as much leg room. Since we tow a boat, we went with Tundra crew cab short bed and put a topper on the bed. The back seat was like a sofa, could tow a house, plenty of rear cargo area and cheaper than a Sequoia.
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I carried three kids in the backseat of a 2004 4runner for years. The main gripes were from the youngest on long trips because he was usually in the middle and didn't have as much leg room. Since we tow a boat, we went with Tundra crew cab short bed and put a topper on the bed. The back seat was like a sofa, could tow a house, plenty of rear cargo area and cheaper than a Sequoia.
It really is unbelievable how much room there is in those things. Plenty of pickup, too. Not only cheaper than Sequoia, but better mileage, too. Doesn't sound like it's what the OP is looking for but now I kinda want one again haha.
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