Well best parts of the Sequoia are not the family hauling aspects. So if that is what you are buying it for then I might agree with you. But if you want a completely reliable vehicle for towing, camping, loading up with crap and beating on for the next 20 years then it is clearly the best full size SUV.

kind of like Elvis towards the end....

The All-New 2020 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road

Not joking here, and almost pains me to say this but I saw the new 2020 TRD Off-Road Rav4 at Toyota Fest in Long Beach recently & that thing looked kinda killer. Prob just jealous of the new factor of it & mpg's & what not but just saying

Except the Sequoia won't die on the toilet.

Introducing the new RAV4 TRD OFF-ROAD*!


*Not for off-road use.

I'm saving my money for the Sienna TRD Off-Road!

That would actually be pretty kick ass. Especially if it had a pop-top like a Westfalia. **** yes.

Toyota Sienna Lift Kits - Journeys Off Road

AWD with 3.5" lift isn't half bad. Saw it at overland expo, almost made me wish I got a Sienna instead of the T4R. /s

That's BA! If we can find one for our Grand Caravan then I'm all in & starting the build thread 2!

You have to go back further to the Previa years.
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I traded in my 2016 4Runner Trail Premium for a 2019 Sequoia 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's my wife and I and two 50 pound dogs. Off-roading is mainly the beaches of the Outer Banks once a year, some gravel roads 2-3 times/year, and driving in fields/pastures 2-3 times a year. So about 99% on-road.

The 4Runner handled all that with ease, I never worried about getting stuck at the beach and one year pulled a stuck Tahoe out of trouble. Gas mileage was consistently in the 18-20mpg range. Snow tires in the winter meant the 4Runner was a total beast in the snow/ice. 16 hour drives were not painful but not pleasant.

The 4Runner did fill up fast when packing for a 2 week beach vacation. And the headlights suck. LED bulbs helped but still not great.

I've only put 800 miles on the Sequoia but I got 19mpg this weekend on a Chicago-St Louis trip. So I'm saying it's getting similar mileage as the 4Runner but with 381HP I have about 100 more than the 4Runner. It's still no speed demon but that's not it's purpose in life. It's just nice to pull hills without excessive downshifting. the on-road ride is also FAR superior to the 4Runner. No nose-diving while braking!

The interior is huge. I have the TRD Sport so 2nd row captain chairs and power folding 3rd row. I'm not expecting to have to take my Thule box to the beach this year. Headlights are LED and are wonderful. They are such a massive improvement over the 4Runner.

I also got radar pacing Cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, lane departure, rear-cross traffic, etc. I don't know if the 4Runner comes with that but the only one I really love is the radar guided cruise.

There's not a whole lot on the Sequoia I don't like at this point but the thing I hate the most is that there's no forum like this for the Sequoia. This place is awesome and while there are the occasional dumb fights, I honestly think anyone hear would give another member the shirt off their back.

I know we all have different use cases, different financial situations, and different wants. For me the Sequoia checked all the boxes and will be a great car. I'm going to miss the security of the rear locker and crawl control when I'm at the beach but I honestly never needed to use it.

Also - I traded in the 4Runner at 3 years with 49k miles. Ended up getting $5k less than I paid for it. And the Sequoia was $12k off sticker.

And one more thing - the Sequoia has a center differential that can be locked. The 4Runner's transfer case is always locked. When driving in the snow if I came to a plowed section of road I had to put the 4Runner in 2wd or I'd get binding in the driveline. I can keep the Sequoia in 4wd with the center diff unlocked even on dry roads.

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You have to go back further to the Previa years.
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Awesome. I have 3 kids and have thought about trading in on a Sequoia. We do 90% on-road driving with trips to off-pavement areas at a national park/recreation area/forest. The kids are all young, so we’ve got plenty of space for a while at least.

OP, when you say "ordered", more than likely your dealer will try to snag one that's coming to a dealer near you that is close to what you want ... may even be what you want. You don't "order" 4Runners, not even Tundras. He's not going to put in an order to Japan. He may "request" what you are looking for. You can order American cars, but not Toyotas.

Man you aaaaaalllmost got me between this and the interior photo. I was at the dealership last week getting some plastic trim rivets and they made a couple of comments that they wanted my '16. The Sequoia interior definitely looks more road trip friendly, but it just doesn't make sense for me. I'm curious to see what the refresh will look like, though. Enjoy!

BTW who is going to be the first to do the 2nd row captain's chair mod to the T4R? How much wider is the Sequoia interior, I wonder...
Edit: Now I'm looking in to it. Dammit.