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Old 08-08-2019, 07:56 PM #16
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I have a 14 Limited and swap between the stock 20" tires and KO2 275/70/17 load range E tires. My xreas was replaced this year under my extended warranty but it had seen a lot of rough fireroads and light off roading. The orange paint was blasted off the front part of the rear shocks from the stones. I do not think this abuse is what Toyota had in mind with the xreas. I live in the desert so I know nothing about people complaining about KO2s in the rain. I am tired of switching tires around. I just bought some used 2018 4runner Trail wheels. I do get tired of the harsh load range E tires. I am going to install Stock size Load range C KO2 tires. The KO2 tires are fine but when you put the oem tires back on you can really tell they are quieter and super smooth. I like the 3 ply sidewall of the KO2 tires when I am in the rocks in the desert. I have no experience with any other tires on a 4runner. On my last 4runner I had the old style bfg all terrains and was happy with them also.
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Looks like BFG is giving me a redo on my bad K02s so if you guys had to pick from only the following and why? 19 ORP KDSSS - highway cruiser / gravel / fire roads . Mounting on either 7.5 Trail rims or new 7 TRDP Semas

K02 C Rated - Stock size 265/70
Michelin AT2 - P265/70
K02 C Rated - 255/75 ( currently on my 16' Trail Rim but won't hold balance)
Michelin Defender MS - P 255/75 (32" tire)
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Looks like BFG is giving me a redo on my bad K02s so if you guys had to pick from only the following and why? 19 ORP KDSSS - highway cruiser / gravel / fire roads . Mounting on either 7.5 Trail rims or new 7 TRDP Semas

K02 C Rated - Stock size 265/70
Michelin AT2 - P265/70
K02 C Rated - 255/75 ( currently on my 16' Trail Rim but won't hold balance)
Michelin Defender MS - P 255/75 (32" tire)
I totally do not see the point of the KO2s on the East Coast. Here, in the desert, I understand.

I cannot provide any feedback on AT2 vs Defender, but for that kind of use I would definitely avoid the KO2 in any load rating.

Other tires to consider include the brand new Firestone Destination AT2, the Wrangler Trail Runner, and the Falken Wildpeak though the latter is burlier and heavier than what is needed for those trails.
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KO2 at 20K, add water and you have ingredients for sliding in the rain. Took my KO2's off at 25K. They were fine to about 20K and overnight became dangerous in the rain. Never again
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KO2 at 20K, add water and you have ingredients for sliding in the rain. Took my KO2's off at 25K. They were fine to about 20K and overnight became dangerous in the rain. Never again
Aren't such changes interesting, aside from being annoying?

My Toyo AT II got noisy similarly "overnight" around 20k. From great to flap-flap-flap.

My current Wildpeaks are being tracked way more carefully, in 32nds s mileage varies with use. Around 7/32nds the tire quite suddenly became less comfortable. It is hard for me to tell because my other two are at 10 but I definitely feel the ride a bit harsher, just like that.

My KO2s were used on a Subaru, so rain issues were nonexistent. I sold them at 8/32nds so never learned how they do later in their life.
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Aren't such changes interesting, aside from being annoying?

My Toyo AT II got noisy similarly "overnight" around 20k. From great to flap-flap-flap.

My current Wildpeaks are being tracked way more carefully, in 32nds s mileage varies with use. Around 7/32nds the tire quite suddenly became less comfortable. It is hard for me to tell because my other two are at 10 but I definitely feel the ride a bit harsher, just like that.

My KO2s were used on a Subaru, so rain issues were nonexistent. I sold them at 8/32nds so never learned how they do later in their life.
My heavy Off Road days are behind me. Mostly running trails for hunting-fishing etc. All tires as they wear loose performance. Just before I took them off, they did great during hunting season. That said, 90% of driving on developed roads. Under light throttle starts with any wet road condition and the back wheels broke. Any water ponding on the roads and that wheel (s) lost traction.

It was as if someone threw a switch and turned off the water traction
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I recently went through this decision matrix as well and ended up with the Wildpeak AT3 in 285/70r17 on my TRDORP. My driving habits are pretty much what you described, 95% on road.

I have about 4000 miles on them and drove about 500 miles in a torrential rain storm on the interstate. The 4runner felt and drove exceptionally well. The tires are only slightly louder than the stock Bridgestones and I've had zero balancing issues as well.

As an earlier poster said - go with the P metric tire - with your driving habits there is no reason to go with the LT tire.

My brother recently installed the Wildpeaks on his wife's Tacoma and his new F150 - his experience is the same as mine.

It seems to be a good value and very good tire. Good luck!
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I recently went through this decision matrix as well and ended up with the Wildpeak AT3 in 285/70r17 on my TRDORP. My driving habits are pretty much what you described, 95% on road.

I have about 4000 miles on them and drove about 500 miles in a torrential rain storm on the interstate. The 4runner felt and drove exceptionally well. The tires are only slightly louder than the stock Bridgestones and I've had zero balancing issues as well.

As an earlier poster said - go with the P metric tire - with your driving habits there is no reason to go with the LT tire.

My brother recently installed the Wildpeaks on his wife's Tacoma and his new F150 - his experience is the same as mine.

It seems to be a good value and very good tire. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing your experience - much appreciated. I'm close to you by the way - Decatur, but spend plenty of time in Roswell. If you're a member of the Atlanta 4Runners group on FB, I'll probably see you around!
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I have been researching tires for 3-4 months and my driving habits and needs are pretty much identical to yours. 90-95% on road with occasional forest service roads and some winter driving in the mountains for backpacking, fishing etc. I had KO2s on my f150 and they got scary in the rain as the miles started to add up. Unless sidewall protection is crucial they are overkill for a 4runner. Especially if wet weather traction is key and I see tons of rain and wet roads in upstate SC and the N.C. mountains. I ran p metric michelins and Yokohama geo landers for many years on my Gen 3 and never had a single issue.

The Falken WP is probably going to be my next purchase. I like the aggressive look and they check all the boxes. They are 7lbs heavier per tire which is the only drawback vs the stock Dunlops. Other tires I have considered are the cooper at3 and the Toyo OC at2. The coopers just dont appeal to me as much visually. The Toyos get mixed reviews but in P or SL load they do weight 41 lbs so some benefit there from a mpg perspective.

I plan to take the mileage hit and go with the Falkens. Hope this helps you out.
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I have been researching tires for 3-4 months and my driving habits and needs are pretty much identical to yours. 90-95% on road with occasional forest service roads and some winter driving in the mountains for backpacking, fishing etc. I had KO2s on my f150 and they got scary in the rain as the miles started to add up. Unless sidewall protection is crucial they are overkill for a 4runner. Especially if wet weather traction is key and I see tons of rain and wet roads in upstate SC and the N.C. mountains. I ran p metric michelins and Yokohama geo landers for many years on my Gen 3 and never had a single issue.



The Falken WP is probably going to be my next purchase. I like the aggressive look and they check all the boxes. They are 7lbs heavier per tire which is the only drawback vs the stock Dunlops. Other tires I have considered are the cooper at3 and the Toyo OC at2. The coopers just dont appeal to me as much visually. The Toyos get mixed reviews but in P or SL load they do weight 41 lbs so some benefit there from a mpg perspective.



I plan to take the mileage hit and go with the Falkens. Hope this helps you out.
I didn't see a mileage hit really. However, getting them balanced and keeping them balanced has proven to be a real pain. I think I'll be looking elsewhere next time.
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I have not had any balancing issues with my P 265 70 17 Wildpeaks (10% over stock wheel/tire combo). E-load are much heavier, so those might have balancing issues.

My LTD KO2s on my Outback (+26lb over stock despite lighter wheels) could never be fully balanced (I was fine with +16% Geolander ATS).
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Has anybody looked into the P-rated Yokohama G015?

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Yes. Newer AT designs, like the GO15 normally have an area where they excel, l just don't understand where the GO15 is supposed to excel.

I had two sets of the earlier ATS, two sizes, on my Outback totaling about 53,000 miles. It left much to be desired in cornering and braking. I am sure GO15 is much better but I have read a couple of people making similar complaints to those I used to have.

No idea how it does on 4R but, again, just fail to see any appealing feature vis-a-vis the competition.
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Many people here say they have balancing problems with BFG KO2s. However I have the opposite experience. They balanced on the first try. I had balancing problems with other tires.
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I always find tire threads interesting, and curious? almost as much fun as oil threads... I have put over 100k miles on BFG K02's c-rated. Luv them! Best looking tire out there, amazing durability and have the confidence you need off road for my needs. Run them year round in Colorado. Never have had any wet traction issues? To each their own guess. Frequent balancing/rotation is required however...I do mine every 5k religiously!
Fwiw, I would look into that new Goodyear ultra terrain AT, Discount tire exclusive, Would love to hear feedback on this tire from any 5th gen drivers. I guess it is a 10 ply E-load rated tire.
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