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Very interesting, especially the remark about no yellow bulb that does the job available.

BTW for Virginia folks be advised that only clear film can be placed on lights. I ran into this with Laminex on my T4R and could not pass state inspection until I removed it. And yes I had the inspector show me the requirement in the book, as I was highly skeptical.
ive had it for a couple of years now and havent had any issue
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ive had it for a couple of years now and havent had any issue
Inspector not fully knowledgeable or letting it slide. Like I said it is in the book.

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Reject if the vehicle has wire, unapproved lens or plastic covers, any other materials that are not original equipment or any colored material placed on or in front of any auxiliary lamps: backup, cornering, driving, fog, spot, or warning lamps.”
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Inspector not fully knowledgeable or letting it slide. Like I said it is in the book.

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Reject if the vehicle has wire, unapproved lens or plastic covers, any other materials that are not original equipment or any colored material placed on or in front of any auxiliary lamps: backup, cornering, driving, fog, spot, or warning lamps.”
multiple inspectors, so no one cares. see lots of cars with it around here
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Here’s some info on fog lights in general, from Daniel Stern Lighting:
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Selective Yellow fog lights:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Long story, short: Try using 3 inch wide 1mil kapton (polyimide) tape over your existing fog light lenses:
1 Mil Kapton Tape (Polyimide), 3" x 36 yds: Electrical Tape: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

It’s worth a try before spending more money and time.

Has anyone tried the tape ElectroBoy suggested. Thinking about getting some so any input appreciated
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Has anyone tried the tape ElectroBoy suggested. Thinking about getting some so any input appreciated
I just tried this on one fog lamp, drivers side. I have some rolls of one-inch wide and two-inch wide kapton tape, so it took three strips to cover the stock fog lamp. You can see the seams in the photo where I overlapped them a little. I got a few tiny bubbles and puckers, but this is a quick and dirty test.

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Well, it does work. I get yellow light that looks pleasing on my garage wall. I cannot see if the seams make any difference. I’ll test it out tonight and see how it compares to the white light on the passenger side.

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It’s a little tricky doing this while they’re still installed on the truck. I positioned the tape over the lens, started pressing it down in the middle, and pressed out wrinkles toward the edges. If you lift up the tape after it’s been on the lens the adhesive gets cloudy, so when I did that I discarded it and started again. I put a strip of tape over the lens and housing, pressed out wrinkles, and trimmed the ends with an xacto knife, tucking the last bit under the lip of the housing.

To do a more professional job I’d remove the lamps from the truck, get some wider tape, and maybe use a heat gun or hairdryer to warm it so it stretches a little (if it does stretch) around the slight roundness of the lens.
Another note: my stock foglamps are more than 3 inches in diameter, more like 3.8 linear inches with the curvature, so you’ll need a seam somewhere.
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I just tried this on one fog lamp, drivers side. I have some rolls of one-inch wide and two-inch wide kapton tape, so it took three strips to cover the stock fog lamp. You can see the seams in the photo where I overlapped them a little. I got a few tiny bubbles and puckers, but this is a quick and dirty test.

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Well, it does work. I get yellow light that looks pleasing on my garage wall. I cannot see if the seams make any difference. I’ll test it out tonight and see how it compares to the white light on the passenger side.

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It’s a little tricky doing this while they’re still installed on the truck. I positioned the tape over the lens, started pressing it down in the middle, and pressed out wrinkles toward the edges. If you lift up the tape after it’s been on the lens the adhesive gets cloudy, so when I did that I discarded it and started again. I put a strip of tape over the lens and housing, pressed out wrinkles, and trimmed the ends with an xacto knife, tucking the last bit under the lip of the housing.

To do a more professional job I’d remove the lamps from the truck, get some wider tape, and maybe use a heat gun or hairdryer to warm it so it stretches a little (if it does stretch) around the slight roundness of the lens.
Another note: my stock foglamps are more than 3 inches in diameter, more like 3.8 linear inches with the curvature, so you’ll need a seam somewhere.
Yeah I had the same install problem with Laminx I tried before. Don’t think it was very good light wise so removed it. Did what you are doing, one clear and one Laminx, clear more light but then never was able to test in fog.

Thanks for the input and will be interested in your light test clear vs tape.
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Yeah I had the same install problem with Laminx I tried before. Don’t think it was very good light wise so removed it. Did what you are doing, one clear and one Laminx, clear more light but then never was able to test in fog.

Thanks for the input and will be interested in your light test clear vs tape.
Well, I tried the comparison at night in clear weather. Tried to see the difference driving around the dark city streets and took some pics against a white wall. There definitely is yellow light but it’s pretty subtle. I agree there seems to be less brightness to the light, but that’s how our eyes work. The selective yellow gets rid of the blue which causes back scatter in fog. Fog lights are designed to do just that, low angle light to minimize light bouncing back into your eyes in really nasty slow driving conditions, so you can see the road and shoulders and stay on the road. Fog lights are not supposed to be used as regular low beam assisted driving lights.

I don’t drive at night in fog much or in snow storms. Those two scenarios would be the real test. I’ll keep an eye on the weather report for any foggy coastal conditions around here and see if I can get out there and notice any performance difference.

Anyway, here are some pics. Not very remarkable.
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Well, I tried the comparison at night in clear weather. Tried to see the difference driving around the dark city streets and took some pics against a white wall. There definitely is yellow light but it’s pretty subtle. I agree there seems to be less brightness to the light, but that’s how our eyes work. The selective yellow gets rid of the blue which causes back scatter in fog. Fog lights are designed to do just that, low angle light to minimize light bouncing back into your eyes in really nasty slow driving conditions, so you can see the road and shoulders and stay on the road. Fog lights are not supposed to be used as regular low beam assisted driving lights.

I don’t drive at night in fog much or in snow storms. Those two scenarios would be the real test. I’ll keep an eye on the weather report for any foggy coastal conditions around here and see if I can get out there and notice any performance difference.

Anyway, here are some pics. Not very remarkable.
Thanks for the input. I too don’t venture out in really nasty stuff much anymore, but think I will try this tape after my next state inspection in August. Any film on a light lens except clear fails inspection. That way it can stay on for a year. Only had the laminx on a few weeks before I went for inspection and got told I would fail unless I removed it on the spot. Balked but was shown the requirement in the inspection book. Even shown where yellow bulbs would fail as not original equipment.

I live in Tidewater Virginia on the Chesapeake Bay and frequent our old fishin’ shack on Hatteras Island near Cape Hatteras. We get lots of fog in early morning both places, and lots of “sea fog” on the island as my location sticks out about 20 miles into the Atlantic, so will likely be able to get a good test in a year.
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Thanks for the input. I too don’t venture out in really nasty stuff much anymore, but think I will try this tape after my next state inspection in August. Any film on a light lens except clear fails inspection. That way it can stay on for a year. Only had the laminx on a few weeks before I went for inspection and got told I would fail unless I removed it on the spot. Balked but was shown the requirement in the inspection book. Even shown where yellow bulbs would fail as not original equipment.

I live in Tidewater Virginia on the Chesapeake Bay and frequent our old fishin’ shack on Hatteras Island near Cape Hatteras. We get lots of fog in early morning both places, and lots of “sea fog” on the island as my location sticks out about 20 miles into the Atlantic, so will likely be able to get a good test in a year.
That sounds like a good plan. BTW, I tried a test with a couple of strips of kapton tape and applying them to a plastic box using the wet method. That is, one applied over a spray of water, the other over soapy water. They are very easy (soapy one the easiest) to slide around and position, and after a short drying time the adhesive sticks the tape to the plastic.
I’m not sure why this works, but it does. It must be the way the silicone adhesive behaves.
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That sounds like a good plan. BTW, I tried a test with a couple of strips of kapton tape and applying them to a plastic box using the wet method. That is, one applied over a spray of water, the other over soapy water. They are very easy (soapy one the easiest) to slide around and position, and after a short drying time the adhesive sticks the tape to the plastic.
I’m not sure why this works, but it does. It must be the way the silicone adhesive behaves.
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If you are looking for a simple bulb swap for the fog light housing, I would go with the Xenon Depot Xtreme LED Pro or the VLEDs Micro Limited.

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List of Yellow Fog Light options:
Also, an overview of the top 5 Amber/Yellow fog lights for the 4Runner here.
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