08-13-2019, 09:41 PM
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Buying a low trim truck with the towing power you need seems like a really good idea financially. If you're concerned at all with residual value of a vehicle over time, you can't do much worse than a premium trim 1 ton truck. On the other hand, a well maintained low or mid level truck holds it value much better.
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Agreed, the top trims plummet fast, after all, the only difference between the top trim and work trim trucks are all of the electronic gadgets and interior furnishings/appointments. I will add a low option base model truck when the time comes.
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08-13-2019, 09:56 PM
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I came from a 2013 Tundra Rock Warrior.
I understand. I wasn't towing an off shore Cat/Vee whatever you got, but I was pulling race car trailer and supporting gear.
All told about 7K. This was out of the range of the 4runner, hence the Tundra choice back then. Tundra towed ok at that level, but man it required a bunch of planning and soft hands and feet on the controls.
I can't imagine 18K, wouldn't you be in an F550 Top Kick type range?
I went to a 4runner as I needed to get to work and back in 1 tank, including day care drop off and pick up. I sold the trailer, but still have the race car.
Do what you want.
Good thing about the 4runner holding value, you won't lose too much more if you hold onto it for a year. Esp since the 2020 is minor improvements yet again.
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08-13-2019, 10:21 PM
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I came from a 2013 Tundra Rock Warrior.
I understand. I wasn't towing an off shore Cat/Vee whatever you got, but I was pulling race car trailer and supporting gear.
All told about 7K. This was out of the range of the 4runner, hence the Tundra choice back then. Tundra towed ok at that level, but man it required a bunch of planning and soft hands and feet on the controls.
I can't imagine 18K, wouldn't you be in an F550 Top Kick type range?
I went to a 4runner as I needed to get to work and back in 1 tank, including day care drop off and pick up. I sold the trailer, but still have the race car.
Do what you want.
Good thing about the 4runner holding value, you won't lose too much more if you hold onto it for a year. Esp since the 2020 is minor improvements yet again.
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The last boat was a 38' with triples, the next one will be slightly longer and will have quads. With the hull weighing over 12,000lbs before any electronics, rigging, accessories and the outboards weighing 600+ (depending on model), these things get heavy fast. That weight doesn't include the 44' triple axle trailer or rods/reels/tackle, fuel, water, and ice either.
I need to sit back and wait until the time draws closer, then I can snag a truck when it's go time once again.
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08-13-2019, 10:22 PM
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I’d be shopping for a 1 ton dually with an 8 foot box at that weight. That’ll give you plenty of extra capacity for passengers, cargo, etc. A SRW 3/4 ton diesel is going to be maxed out at 18K and once you’re loaded to fish - I imagine you’ll be at 20K plus with quads and a 40’ plus offshore hull/electronics - that’s a lot of boat! Will you need oversized permits for that beast?? I personally don’t like to tow at over 2/3 of the max rating. Saw your Pro listed - sweet ride! GLWS.
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08-13-2019, 10:55 PM
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The last boat was a 38' with triples, the next one will be slightly longer and will have quads. With the hull weighing over 12,000lbs before any electronics, rigging, accessories and the outboards weighing 600+ (depending on model), these things get heavy fast. That weight doesn't include the 44' triple axle trailer or rods/reels/tackle, fuel, water, and ice either.
I need to sit back and wait until the time draws closer, then I can snag a truck when it's go time once again.
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With a boat that large, would you be better off just docking or mooring it? All my friends with boats do that. Then again, those are sailboats and we're in the northeast, so it may be a completely different situation than what you have where you are.
If that's possible though, maybe you could just have the boat moved in/out for the season and not need to buy a tow rig for it.
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08-13-2019, 10:59 PM
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I’d be shopping for a 1 ton dually with an 8 foot box at that weight. That’ll give you plenty of extra capacity for passengers, cargo, etc. A SRW 3/4 ton diesel is going to be maxed out at 18K and once you’re loaded to fish - I imagine you’ll be at 20K plus with quads and a 40’ plus offshore hull/electronics - that’s a lot of boat! Will you need oversized permits for that beast?? I personally don’t like to tow at over 2/3 of the max rating. Saw your Pro listed - sweet ride! GLWS.
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We only tow it a few miles so the dually is over kill outside of those 30 minutes lol. They ride like absolute dog crap when not loaded down and it's a beating to live with one for daily use. I would be maxed out on paper with the 250/2500 but the truck is more than capable of handling it.
The listing is more or less just testing the water, I doubt I sell it haha.
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08-13-2019, 11:04 PM
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With a boat that large, would you be better off just docking or mooring it? All my friends with boats do that. Then again, those are sailboats and we're in the northeast, so it may be a completely different situation than what you have where you are.
If that's possible though, maybe you could just have the boat moved in/out for the season and not need to buy a tow rig for it.
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If we could get a slip with a hoist for the boat where we fish then yes it would be sitting at the dock. There is only one place that can handle that size boat in a lift and as you can imagine it's a hot commodity and there's a wait list many years long. I refuse to put bottom paint on a CC and leave it in the water like a yacht, oh the humanity lol.
Years back we had a twin inboard diesel 38' boat with a covered hoisted slip that was supposedly up to the task for that kind of weight. One day we found out otherwise when we got a pic of the back end of our boat sitting in the water and the bow pointing skyward. Talk about your heart sinking, that was a messy situation with the marinas insurance and lawyers.
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08-13-2019, 11:47 PM
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Not for work, personal use. In the summer it'll be in use most weekends. Sparingly throughout the remainder of the year.
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I'd buy a used F250 and keep the 4R. You'll spend on maintenance, but save about $30k off the face of it, and it should get you where you want to be with minimal inconvenience. It won't be as sexy as a brand new beast, but $30k in your pocket can be sexy too.
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08-14-2019, 07:47 AM
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I spoke with the misses about this at length last night and we touched base again this morning and she agrees that it makes more sense to keep the 4Runner, continue to build it and use it as a daily/beach vehicle/weekend adventure rig and then add a lower trim diesel truck next year or when the new boat comes.
So after all of this research, truck shopping, constant back and forth and continually doubting myself, I can finally put this issue to bed. The 4Runner listing has been withdrawn and she will get to stick around.
Now I need to get back on track with the build and decide wether or not I should move forward with the interior stuff first (sleep platform, electrical, drawers) or go ahead and put some King's under it to make way for the bumpers and winch?
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08-14-2019, 08:00 AM
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So after all of this research, truck shopping, constant back and forth and continually doubting myself, I can finally put this issue to bed. The 4Runner listing has been withdrawn and she will get to stick around.
Now I need to get back on track with the build and decide wether or not I should move forward with the interior stuff first (sleep platform, electrical, drawers) or go ahead and put some King's under it to make way for the bumpers and winch?
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Kings and a supercharger, duh.
Have fun with the build.
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08-14-2019, 08:08 AM
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Kings and a supercharger, duh.
Have fun with the build.
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I doubt I'll ever put a blower on this vehicle. While I wish it had a little more pep in it's step, I find the power adequate and I like the reliability of the stock power-plant.
Doing the King's first really does make more sense, it's time for an upgrade.
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08-14-2019, 09:26 AM
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How about some pics of your previous boats?
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