07-13-2020, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kleffman13
Thanks for the update Mark! Really looking forward to these coming out! My question for you is... What size tire are you realistically able to run with these? I'm hoping to run 285s. Is that possible? Thanks so much for keeping us in the loop!
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Mark any info for sure on running 285’s? Thanks.
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07-13-2020, 08:54 PM
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I've got these also and have a question. Are you able to adjust these without dropping the link and shock and pulling the spring? I could not as the adjuster tool just bent
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To do it right, you have to take some of the load off the spring before adjusting it. I just jack up the frame at the rear about 3 inches and use the included adjusters to adjust to my needs or liking.
Took me about 5-7 minutes per side. With a better (taller) jack maybe half that.
You do not have to unbolt/remove anything. Just jack up on the FRAME, not the AXLE.
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07-13-2020, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AMLOR
To do it right, you have to take some of the load off the spring before adjusting it. I just jack up the frame at the rear about 3 inches and use the included adjusters to adjust to my needs or liking.
Took me about 5-7 minutes per side. With a better (taller) jack maybe half that.
You do not have to unbolt/remove anything. Just jack up on the FRAME, not the AXLE.
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Thanks, I'll need to find a harder metal to use for a spanner. The ones for both front and back just bent (with entire rear off the ground) Even tired lube, as directed by tech support. I had mine on jack stands on the frame
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07-13-2020, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MGordo
This is correct. I have the Icon coils on the stock Fox shocks. I didnt measure the ride height stock but can defintely measure current.
I estimated 1" as the coils are 0.4" taller and 50lbs higher rating. (Using the 2 x added spring length for added height).
Initially I got the idea from someone on the GXOR facebook page, where a user did the coil swap. They apparently had a friend that worked at Fox and recommended that be the max height added to keep the shocks in the same rebound zone.
For the person commenting on the use of spacers on other 4Runners, the Fox shocks are completely different and have different ride zones based on shock extension. Apples to Oranges.
I dont want this to be taken as me bashing Eibach though, my plan was to go with their kit until I came across these locally.
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What size tire are you able to run with this set up
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07-16-2020, 11:07 AM
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UPDATE:
Springs are ground, shot peened and are now in the second of three Quality Check processes before they go to coating.
You should also start seeing these on your vendors websites as we've sent out all the parts data to them this week!
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07-16-2020, 04:25 PM
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What size tire are you able to run with this set up
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I have 285/65/18, but also have 1.25" wheel spacers. I had to trim trim the bumper a bit more and remove the mudflap.
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07-16-2020, 08:28 PM
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Mark: why did Eibach decide to set the lift at 1.6” for the fronts?
- fox shock performed materially worse above this?
- so you could level the truck with the already produced 1” eibach rear springs? No need to develop a new rear spring.
- so Buyers wouldn’t need to get aftermarket UCAs?
Really curious as I’d like to push the lift up a bit on mine when using your spring. Considering 1/4” top out spacer for an extra 1/2” lift. But interested to know if something with the fox shocks were what kept it at 1.6”.
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07-17-2020, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyg182
Mark: why did Eibach decide to set the lift at 1.6” for the fronts?
- fox shock performed materially worse above this?
- so you could level the truck with the already produced 1” eibach rear springs? No need to develop a new rear spring.
- so Buyers wouldn’t need to get aftermarket UCAs?
Really curious as I’d like to push the lift up a bit on mine when using your spring. Considering 1/4” top out spacer for an extra 1/2” lift. But interested to know if something with the fox shocks were what kept it at 1.6”.
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Tough to make a decision. I’m between on waiting for the springs for my Pro or putting westcott designs. Good question on the springs. The westcott lift will give our Pro 2 inches in the front and 1.25 rear. Just wondering how long it will be for the springs to be done. You can preorder them but I don’t want to be waiting for weeks.
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07-17-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyg182
Mark: why did Eibach decide to set the lift at 1.6” for the fronts?
- fox shock performed materially worse above this?
- so you could level the truck with the already produced 1” eibach rear springs? No need to develop a new rear spring.
- so Buyers wouldn’t need to get aftermarket UCAs?
Really curious as I’d like to push the lift up a bit on mine when using your spring. Considering 1/4” top out spacer for an extra 1/2” lift. But interested to know if something with the fox shocks were what kept it at 1.6”.
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Great question...
We had a decision to make: Will the PRO community want to just level the front and be happy?
What about adding a bumper or winch?
What about lifting the rear?
We started with our initial measuring session, which included fitment of the rear springs. We decided we wanted the maximum lift possible while matching rear 1" lift all without interfering with the function of the shock's rebound zone and overall performance. As you'll see in previous posts we spent a lot of time on the dyno to find the correct static height for the spring. Designs were made, fitments were checked, performance was tested and there you have it!
For reference, every PRO-TRUCK product we make is designed to work with factory UCA's.
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07-17-2020, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RusPro17
Tough to make a decision. I’m between on waiting for the springs for my Pro or putting westcott designs. Good question on the springs. The westcott lift will give our Pro 2 inches in the front and 1.25 rear. Just wondering how long it will be for the springs to be done. You can preorder them but I don’t want to be waiting for weeks.
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Fear not! Go check our instagram story @eibach_world. I just checked in on them and we're hanging fronts and rears for coating as we speak!
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07-17-2020, 08:09 PM
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Fear not! Go check our instagram story @eibach_world. I just checked in on them and we're hanging fronts and rears for coating as we speak!
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Thanks for the update Mark. My plan is to use the Eibach front springs for a 1.6" lift with (2) front 1/4" coil-over shims to provide an additional 1" lift. This paired with the Eibach Load-Leveling System rear springs 250lb 0.5-2.5" lift will equate to approx. 2.6" front lift and 2.5" rear lift to keep a similar factory rake. Do you see any fault in this design including a UCA swap, diff., drop and front bump stop extensions? Thank you in advance. I am planning to call next week and order everything if possible!!
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07-20-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by K4Run
Thanks for the update Mark. My plan is to use the Eibach front springs for a 1.6" lift with (2) front 1/4" coil-over shims to provide an additional 1" lift. This paired with the Eibach Load-Leveling System rear springs 250lb 0.5-2.5" lift will equate to approx. 2.6" front lift and 2.5" rear lift to keep a similar factory rake. Do you see any fault in this design including a UCA swap, diff., drop and front bump stop extensions? Thank you in advance. I am planning to call next week and order everything if possible!!
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We don't have any engineering data or make a recommendation on the results of running shims in the system. We do know that if you run shims on top of the perch, you are extending the length of the assembly and putting stress on all the other components. You covered the items that should be addressed when doing that, but I can't make that recommendation either way. I'm sorry!
For reference, the Load Leveling kit is out of stock until the end of the month when we get the springs finished, but you can put a pre-order in to get your name on a set because they move fast once they hit stock.
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07-20-2020, 06:12 PM
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Hey Folks,
I turned in my wings at Eibach and now work for Hypercoil, which is another spring manufacturer. I’ll still be around, but will not be answering any Eibach related PM’s.
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07-27-2020, 05:32 PM
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UPDATE: KITS NOW IN STOCK!
Thanks everyone for your patience. We're allocating any back-orders and getting these bad boys moving.
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07-27-2020, 05:39 PM
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UPDATE: KITS NOW IN STOCK!
Thanks everyone for your patience. We're allocating any back-orders and getting these bad boys moving.
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Can't wait to hear some feedback and reviews. Definitely rather do a spring than a spacer.
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