05-10-2022, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mark@eibach
@ LIMERUSH22
- We have developed our springs around the optimal damping zone that Fox has built into the shock. This was by way of shock dyno and ride evaluation. That said, we performed this on a bone stock vehicle with zero added weight. SO if you have lost height due to mods and would like to get the nose back up, then the combination would theoretically do so. The caveat being, it may put you out of the optimal damping zone and close to top-out which will adversely affect ride quality. That and the whole spring block thing...
@ lewdog998
is correct in regards to spring block concerns. We design all of our applications so spring block is not possible, but moving the perch up would in fact reduce the amount of travel to block. Changing the spring location without changing the bump stop engagement can break other parts of the vehicle. As we have never tested this combination, we're unable to say with certainty that it would happen in this case. For reference, the total travel of this spring is approximately 211mm.
IMOPORTANT:
As our springs are designed around the factory perch and configuration, running them in tandem will void the million mile warranty on the springs.
Cliffs Notes: Lots of contingencies here, and not recommended by Eibach.
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I appreciate it! What are the springs rated for weight wise?
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05-10-2022, 10:50 AM
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Zal4r's lift looks great with the stock size wheels and tires IMHO
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05-10-2022, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LIMERUSH22
I appreciate it! What are the springs rated for weight wise?
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Idk that answer but I have the springs pre tsb update with a 1/4” top hat spacer and I added a full front bumper and it didn’t drop very much.
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05-11-2022, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LIMERUSH22
Anyone?
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what about a .25" shim on top of the assembly, under the coilbucket that the shock bolts to? itll act as spacer to give you .5" lift, wont change the spring characteristcs, BUT itll make the overall assembly longer
Coachbuilder Strut / Coilover Shim ( Provides .50” of lift ) Tacoma/4R – Shop Coachbuilder
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05-11-2022, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pjames
Zal4r's lift looks great with the stock size wheels and tires IMHO
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I will say it sagged about 1/4 inch 8n the front after tossing all of my aluminum plates back on. If I am remembering correctly it is 22 from hub to fender in front and 23 in the back. I should probably measure all 4 again and write it down.
I am thinking about tires for when the time comes. I thought about going to 33s (255/80/17), but am now considering either sticking with stock size or maybe just moving up to 275/70 or 255/75.
Edit: Remeasured. Both fronts are at 22 even (no lean). Both rears are at 23 even. That is with the trd plate and a full set of rci aluminum skids.
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05-12-2022, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
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Same concept as the Wescot kit, but at the top of the spring rather than at the perch. This is a much smaller amount of preload, so probability of premature blockulation would be less, but again my notes on the previous post still apply. Do at your own risk.
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05-12-2022, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark@eibach
Same concept as the Wescot kit, but at the top of the spring rather than at the perch. This is a much smaller amount of preload, so probability of premature blockulation would be less, but again my notes on the previous post still apply. Do at your own risk.
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different concept...its lengthening the assembly. the westcott one just "compresses" the spring to change ride height but assembly remains same length. I know, "shaddup asz" lol
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05-12-2022, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
different concept...its lengthening the assembly. the westcott one just "compresses" the spring to change ride height but assembly remains same length. I know, "shaddup asz" lol
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DOH! yeah I hastily read that.
Lengthening the assembly too far can cause premature stress and wear on factory ball joints and bushings. I don't know how close the fox dampers come to max droop so it's hard to say what this could potentially do to your setup.
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05-14-2022, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 20164runner
Idk that answer but I have the springs pre tsb update with a 1/4” top hat spacer and I added a full front bumper and it didn’t drop very much.
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I'm curious what top hat spacer you used? I'm looking to get a little bit more height out of the suspension without having to switch to a different shock at this time. No problems with the set up?
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05-15-2022, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JustATallDude
I'm curious what top hat spacer you used? I'm looking to get a little bit more height out of the suspension without having to switch to a different shock at this time. No problems with the set up?
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I used these toytec ones. They’re sold individually. I added them when I swapped the springs and everything is great. I also upgraded the UCA’s and have the duro bump stops. It rides amazing and have had zero problems.
TP14 - Toytec Front Top Plate Spacer (1/4" – 1/2” lift spacer)
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07-12-2022, 03:45 AM
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installed the springs today with RSG Sliders
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07-26-2022, 06:28 PM
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Any folks experiencing new suspension noises after installing these springs? I have a clicking/clunking noise that I can’t figure out. It’s coming from the front end - only during significant compression/up travel. (Big dips in road will cause it, speed bumps/pot holes do not). I can really “feel” the noise-vibration in my feet.
I’m out of ideas. There is no noticeable contact between front suspension components that I can see (i.e. missing paint or scratches). No evidence of the sway bar hitting the radiator supports or the coil over. Retorqued every nut and bolt 3 times (paid special attention to the LCA cam bolts, which I purposefully overtorqued a little as I’ve read these can cause a clunk).
I might be missing something simple … hoping you guys can point me in the right direction.
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07-27-2022, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lcsguthrie
Any folks experiencing new suspension noises after installing these springs? I have a clicking/clunking noise that I can’t figure out. It’s coming from the front end - only during significant compression/up travel. (Big dips in road will cause it, speed bumps/pot holes do not). I can really “feel” the noise-vibration in my feet.
I’m out of ideas. There is no noticeable contact between front suspension components that I can see (i.e. missing paint or scratches). No evidence of the sway bar hitting the radiator supports or the coil over. Retorqued every nut and bolt 3 times (paid special attention to the LCA cam bolts, which I purposefully overtorqued a little as I’ve read these can cause a clunk).
I might be missing something simple … hoping you guys can point me in the right direction.
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What year? 2019/2020 had a tsb for clunking although i don’t recall if anyone had it persist after installing the taller springs. The bottom perch and spring was redesigned 21/22 to help with the clunking.
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07-27-2022, 06:43 AM
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What year? 2019/2020 had a tsb for clunking although i don’t recall if anyone had it persist after installing the taller springs. The bottom perch and spring was redesigned 21/22 to help with the clunking.
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2021. I’ve got the new shock, and also had zero noise before I put these springs on.
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07-28-2022, 12:01 PM
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Joined the Eibach converts. Loving the ride.
Lift on, Stock Trail Grappler 265's
Added Ridge Grappler 285's
Found it to be a bit sluggish after a couple hundred miles, pulled the battery and drained the ECU power. Computer reset helped with it feeling like I had to hammer down at times. Letting it relearn with the new components.
Drive wise, way better feeling than stock. Adding the new tires really makes it feel balanced.
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