08-16-2019, 08:30 PM
|
#1
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
2018 4runner hard braking
I am not new to owning a Toyota truck. Before my 18 4runner I owned a 08 Toyota FJ Cruiser for over 10 years and over 192k miles on it. It just feels that you need to really press on the brake pedal to stop she then it nose dive to a stop.
Am I just crazy or it's just the way the 4runner stops? It would be great to see how some other 18 4runner stops compares to mine.
George
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-16-2019, 08:35 PM
|
#2
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 3,193
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 3,193
|
that's normal.
You will get use to it, but panic breaking in the 4runner still scares the crap out of me of how hard the brakes bite, but it works really well.
__________________
2016 trail 4runner, twin locked on 34's.
Can read more of my build here (2 parts):
https://www.lasfit.com/blogs/news/ho...ad-build-part1
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-16-2019, 08:37 PM
|
#3
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrblah
that's normal.
You will get use to it, but panic breaking in the 4runner still scares the crap out of me of how hard the brakes bite, but it works really well.
|
Thanks for responding and that is also my thought!
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-16-2019, 08:49 PM
|
#4
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 623
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 623
|
It does it's job quite well but I agree that it's too much at times. It can almost feel like you're going to have a wreck instead of avoiding one haha. I think they need to work on that in the next gen of vehicles.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-17-2019, 01:15 PM
|
#5
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 1,838
Real Name: BobH
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 1,838
Real Name: BobH
|
Mine has surprised me a few times with how hard it brakes.
Bilstein 5100s help the nose dive.
We have a new Sienna and after a few hard stops, I wish it did as well as the 4Runner. It feels like too much pressure and not enough stop compared the the T4.
__________________
2013 Shoreline Blue Trail, n-Fab steps, Bilstein 5100's, Toyo AT2s, Scuba Mod, Air Lift 1000, Yaesu FTM-3200DR (KI7IKX), Husky Liners
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-17-2019, 02:07 PM
|
#6
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: N California (really, 4 hours N of SF)
Posts: 332
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: N California (really, 4 hours N of SF)
Posts: 332
|
Twice the extra grab has surprised me. Once was in the snow stopping for a light and the second time was towing a light landscape trailer with a vibrator plate in the back (light load) also stopping for a light. Lots of tire screeching/abs when it was absolutely not necessary.
__________________
1973 Datsun 240z (traded in for ---->) 1981 Toyota 4x4 Deluxe LB (avatar) stolen while sitting with For Sale sign on it / 1987 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, workhorse - sold / 1984 Buick Grand National - Totaled, rear-ended / 1986 Buick Grand National - Sold then restified, lives in SF now / 1994 Toyota Camry - 240k - Taken to Austin Tx by son, traded in on VW GTI sport / 2001 Ford Excursion 7.3 212k - still pulling Arctic Fox Trailer - This is the shtf vehicle / 2018 Toyota 4runner TRD Pro Cavalry Blue
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-17-2019, 08:22 PM
|
#7
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobsTrail
Mine has surprised me a few times with how hard it brakes.
Bilstein 5100s help the nose dive.
We have a new Sienna and after a few hard stops, I wish it did as well as the 4Runner. It feels like too much pressure and not enough stop compared the the T4.
|
Yes I will be adding 5100 to my 4runner this fall. Had them on my FJ and it helped with the nose dive. I am going to put them on 2nd notch (0.85") with a 3/8" spacer on the drives side and 1/4" spacer on the passenger side. This will fix the driver side lean and get around 1.3" of lift upfront.
Last edited by 71gs3504sp; 08-18-2019 at 08:56 AM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-17-2019, 09:14 PM
|
#8
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Chitown
Posts: 258
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Chitown
Posts: 258
|
My 2012 FJ Cruiser also stopped like that if you pressed too hard and rapidly on the brakes. Scared the crap out of me the first time it did it. Now I know better.
__________________
2017 TRD Pro - Red
2012 FJ Cruiser - Sold
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-17-2019, 10:32 PM
|
#9
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 349
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 349
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 71gs3504sp
Yes I am will be adding 5100 to my 4runner this fall. Had them on my FJ and it helped with the nose dive. I am going to put them on 2nd notch (0.85") with a 3/8" spacer on the drives side and 1/4" spacer on the passenger side. This will fix the driver side lean and get around 1.3" of lift upfront.
|
Personally I think the 5100's are far too stiff but that's just me.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-18-2019, 08:45 AM
|
#10
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Warminster, PA
Age: 60
Posts: 87
Real Name: George
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissouriBreaks
My 2012 FJ Cruiser also stopped like that if you pressed too hard and rapidly on the brakes. Scared the crap out of me the first time it did it. Now I know better.
|
My 08 FJ that I owned since new was easier on the pedal to stop her. Switching over to 18 4runner was way different, that is what I noticed.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-18-2019, 10:04 AM
|
#11
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,509
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,509
|
I have a 17, does the same thing. Nosedive is fixed with new suspension but not the soft start hard finish grabby brakes. My biggest complaint in the 4Runner. Engineers really screwed up on the brakes. Not sure if the late cycle refresh did anything about this in the 2020s. Doubt it.
__________________
2017 Off-road Premium w KDSS, moon roof, sliding rear cargo deck,3" Toytech Boss lift, SPC upper control arms, Sonoran Steel High Articulation KDSS Trac/PanHard Bar, RCI sliders, RCI skid plates aluminum including gas tank, C4 Fab diff skid plate, SCS Ray 10 Wheels Matte Gray, 285/70R17 Hankook Dynapro AT2 RF11 E-load RWL, Cali Raised LED 3x2 fog-light pods, Lock'r Down EXxtreme console safe with electronic lock, Auto Heat Shield all windows, Raingler rear cargo net, Canvasback rear covers, LFD Off-Road cross bars aluminum, LFD Hybrid bumper, LFD wind fairing, LFD Hi-lift jack mounts, Goat Armor, Blackgate Custom KDSS spacers, Ironman 2.5 awning with quick release mounts, Ironman 12,000 lb synthetic line winch.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-18-2019, 10:03 PM
|
#12
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 68
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 68
|
they all are like that
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-18-2019, 10:14 PM
|
#13
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: KC
Posts: 220
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: KC
Posts: 220
|
It definitely has a strange feel, but very effective at stopping. On a side note, how long do the pads typically last?
__________________
2019 SW TRDORP
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-19-2019, 07:20 AM
|
#14
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 857
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 857
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaWhiskey
It definitely has a strange feel, but very effective at stopping. On a side note, how long do the pads typically last?
|
I'm at 180,000 miles and I just put my 3rd set of pads on Saturday. They had plenty of meat left on them, once again the OEM pads do not disappoint!!!
I changed first set at 100k and replaced rotors because I was afraid they were worn from running pads so long. Pads had meat left at 100k.
So, to answer your question, depending on your driving habits, you could easily get 70-100k out of the OEM fronts. Rears will last longer.
__________________
2012 Trail Edition |KDSS |BLACK| 265/70R17 C KO2's @ 44psi | 250,000+ miles |>Link To Inside Fishing Rod Holder Mod
2017 LAND CRUISER URJ200 | MGM | 285/60R18 | 62,000 miles
I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
08-19-2019, 06:44 PM
|
#15
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 450
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 450
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jivewalker
I'm at 180,000 miles and I just put my 3rd set of pads on Saturday. They had plenty of meat left on them, once again the OEM pads do not disappoint!!!
I changed first set at 100k and replaced rotors because I was afraid they were worn from running pads so long. Pads had meat left at 100k.
So, to answer your question, depending on your driving habits, you could easily get 70-100k out of the OEM fronts. Rears will last longer.
|
That is seriously impressive. That can't be typical pad life though, right? RIGHT?haha
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|