Oh, that's right. Same thing or different? I actually can't keep up with what's what from LR, but I saw some buzz about it by overloading types on social media. And the price range for the Defender is $49,900 to about $105,000, so what actually is that?

I agree wholeheartedly. My '83 FJ60 was my first Toyota, and it's what sparked the Toyota fire in me. I bought it in 2000, with 185k miles, brakes that had to be pumped a few times to work, and a slipping clutch. Being the young idiot that I was, instead of fixing the issues, I put some questionable lift springs and a set of 33s under it. Then, I proceeded to beat it up on the rocks. I did really love that truck though. In retrospect, I should have kept it stock and just sorted out the issues from years of neglect. Both it and I would have been much better off.

Anyway, I sold it after owning it for two years because it wasn't my daily driver and I didn't really have space in my life (literally or figuratively) for a second vehicle. I've always missed it though, and I have a seriously soft spot in my heart for 60s.

After the FJ60, I had a '99 XJ Cherokee (daily driver), and then a '94 Range Rover Classic (second car to my WRX, I finally had room for multiple cars). The Rover was a bunch of fun, but it wasn't a Cruiser. So, I sold the Rover traded the WRX in on a new '09 Tacoma DCSB TRDOR. I had the Taco for a little over 10 years and put >150k miles on it. It never broke down in all of that time, and it was a great truck. While I had the Tacoma, at one point my wife drove a 4th Gen 4R and then a 5th Gen 4R. We got the 5th Gen about a year before our divorce, so I didn't spend a lot of time in it, but I did like it when we took it on family trips.

Finally, a couple of weeks ago, I decided it was time to put the Taco out to pasture and let someone enjoy it during the second half of its life, and I bought a '19 SR5 4R. On my drive home, and everyday since then, I really get the vibes of my old 60. As you said, it's a similar size, similar cabin layout, etc. It's like a less heavy duty, modernized version of an FJ60.

TL/DR: The 5G4R is not a "spiritual successor" of a LR Disco. It's a lighter duty modern day reincarnation of the venerable FJ60, perhaps leaning a bit more toward the 62 (due to the automatic transmission, PW/PL, and more updated electronics).

Always just remember the Defender is what Bond Villains drive and a Discovery is for Safari's and NATO.

Never been on a safari, but I'll definitely ask to confirm they're using LC and not a Disco before I book

haha I believe the purpose of a safari is the animals lol

Retirement and death are trips with one-way tickets

On every other trip, I want to return

thats deep

been over a year!

When I was in Bosnia with DOS/DOD in 1996 (Dayton Peace Accords...Clinton...) we had diesel disco's, diesel Hilux's, diesel jeeps and diesel Monteros. The Disco's were the only rig that didn't get stuck in the horrible mud/snow of a Balkan winter. 30mpg and 0-60 in....eventually. I loved my diesel Disco, tried to buy it when I was de-mobilized, but the import regulations were too strict.

I drove a Landcruiser J70 in sub-Saharan West Africa for a year in the 90s with the Peace Corps over the worst roads I've seen anywhere. It had a winch and snorkel and could go anywhere. We drove it across water up to the windows and across miles and miles of terrain where there literally was no road. One time we even drove it onto planks suspended between two dugout canoes and poled it across a river that was too deep to drive through. It was the best vehicle I've ever driven, and for me that's the spiritual forerunner to the 4Runner Pro I'm waiting to get delivered next month.

Ah...the J70....bulletproof. Agree 100% the spiritual forerunner to the 4Runner.

The 70’s are the things of legend and US should have got them after they stopped bringing over the 40’s. Now our only choice for a new solid front axle 4X4 is the Jeep. Toyota could have owned that market seeing how Ford is not “bringing it” with the new Bronco.

Good luck with the new Pro. I like mine.

Having owned a 60, the 5th generation is a modern day 60. They're even almost the same size.

Notable similarities include both are heavy as hell, slower than the competition, loud, and are missing at least one transmission gear.

The 4Runner is notable for being much more powerful and as capable if not more so compared to only the most hard core built 60s.

I can't unsee this haha