2019 SUV of the Year: Which 4x4 Wins Our On- and Off-Road Battle?

http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-r...r-of-the-year/

I know the kdss is from and they might've made improvements but you're wrong unless you prove otherwise.

I do agree that kdss plus the fox set up would be killer.


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Nice article. But, but, but, it's an Unlimited Rubicon.

"What really surprised us though was how well the JL performed in the sand dunes and on fast two-track roads, situations where the Wrangler was at a distinct disadvantage in the past. The JL still couldn’t keep up with the 4Runner TRD Pro in these situations, but the gap definitely got much smaller than it has been in the past."

this is getting really informative

Tries to use technical jargon but still fails.... lol

In automotive technician world it's referred as thicker sway bars not heavier sway bars but a spit shine as yourself would know that.

People also assume that a larger diameter bar means that it is stiffer when really it could be the same stiffness if the material thickness is lower. But hey, people that can't think are quick to resort to name call and send PMs. Turd genners are like that which is why TW sucks now.

What i see here is people mad because they didn't buy a KDSS equipped 4Runner, so they now talk shit.

95%+ of the time, the KDSS equipped 4Runner is going to result in a better feeling ride.

Having had 5thGen 4Runners with and without, I can say that the KDSS equipped 4Runner is head an shoulders a better ride than without, which is why I am in another one with it, and I believe it kept me from flipping when I had to swerve to avoid a tire carcass from an 18 wheeler that blew a tire ahead of me, because the KDSS helps negate body roll at higher speeds.

And a thicker sway bar is also heavier, and I seen them referred to as such, and some are even called heavy duty sway bars.

Not going to engage in name calling, but with my experiences over the ownership of 3 5th Gen 4Runners, no one can offer any proof that KDSS is not worth it for the vast majority of uses.

Yea, you are limited to 3' lift (until someone comes up with either linkage to accommodate the extra lift, of some other kind of adapter), but even in the world of lifting, its not common to see more than 3" of lift on a 5th Gen 4Runner.
If you want a highly lifted rock crawler, there are already better options for vehicles than the 4Runner.

"Heavier" was good enough for an A- in vehicle dynamics in college and for a respectable college race team (which isnt surprising since heavier makes sense if you know what you're talking avout), stop trolling. And lmao at thinking an auto tech knows anything about suspension setup, lol.

Ultimately it's an easy argument to conclude: drive both, they handle very differently

We both have KDSS equipped Runners.

KDSS is locked up at high speeds so it's just standard sway bar operation. Maybe it is stiffer but idk.

Thanks. Actual user proof instead of just calling people noobs and trolls.

Those E credentials.

That's all that needed to be said. I don't really think you understand what troll actually means.

Troll means morons arguing for the sake of arguing after they realize their argument is dumb and wrong

Different springs, different sway bar, literally feels different driving both - tHeSe aRe tHe sAMe reeeee

troll harder

So then by your definition, you're the troll.

Different springs, where?

Someone claimed that kdss had a better RTI rating compared to the pro. I linked test for both the pro and a kdss 4runner. There isn't any buts. Since you want to cherry pick I provided two screenshots. It doesn't say what degree RTI but I'll just assume it's the 20 degrees.







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Well hey look at that, you've conceded the sway bars are different which by itself would cause it to handle differently

There are 4 part numbers for shocks and 4 for springs, want to guess why, lol?

Code numbers for trolls? Which one is yours?

I edited my original post to better suit you and thw others.