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Old 09-26-2019, 03:28 PM #1
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About to stick some other wheels / tires on, TPMS

So I currently have the set of wheels and tires (aftermarket) that came on my 4R when I bought it. I am pretty sure all 4 and the spare 5th (also matching aftermarket) all have the TPMS in them.

I purchased another set of wheels and tires, and will be getting them mounted and balanced next week. So I plan to sell the ones on my ride currently.

I would prefer to have my TPMS out of my currents and swapped to the ones that I am going to have mounted and balanced, but I do not see the point in paying a shop the cost of dismounting the tires to pull the TPMS and then paying them to remount and balance, plus my new ones. Thats 3 times.

I am sure I could leave the wheels and tires seperated, but I think ill have a much harder time selling than someone just buying the package ready to go.

If you were in my situation, would you just go ahead and mount and balance my ones I am putting on, and then just not worry about having the TPMS and disabling the light?

I hate the thought of having all the parts, but also hate the thought of spending the money on a dismount / mount /balance for a set I am selling.
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I would check prices for a new set of TPMS and see if it's more or less than the labor at your wheel shop to re:re 3x.

Selling wheels and tires can be challenging. If local, no problem. If you have to ship, most people won't want to pay the premium to ship the set. Tires are ridiculously heavy and large. I recently went through this with a set from my old car, ended up splitting the wheels from the tires because I could ship the wheels for ~$100 for the set. With tires was almost $100 each.
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I sold a set of stock wheels with some AT tires, they were still "together" but the bead broken so they could pull the TPMS out. I was able to sell them without too much trouble.

I guess they use the tire machine to push the tire back far enough, pull out the sensor, then release the machine.

Junk yards will take a tire off a wheel for like $5 a wheel, just an FYI. You'd have to have both sets available and not on the vehicle in order to go that route.

On another note, some people want tires only or wheels only, so you might be able to get the same money or more by separating them, depending what they are.
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I sold a set of stock wheels with some AT tires, they were still "together" but the bead broken so they could pull the TPMS out. I was able to sell them without too much trouble.

I guess they use the tire machine to push the tire back far enough, pull out the sensor, then release the machine.

Junk yards will take a tire off a wheel for like $5 a wheel, just an FYI. You'd have to have both sets available and not on the vehicle in order to go that route.

On another note, some people want tires only or wheels only, so you might be able to get the same money or more by separating them, depending what they are.
Thanks for these ideas. For when they break the bead, does one have to have the wheel and tire rebalanced? That is an interesting method I did not thnk of.

The junkyard thing isnt an option for me, plus I wouldnt want them to scratch the aftermarket wheels they would be coming off of that I would like to sell.
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Thanks for these ideas. For when they break the bead, does one have to have the wheel and tire rebalanced? That is an interesting method I did not thnk of.
Yes, as the tire would probably rotate around the wheel and be in a different position. It would need balancing after it's reinstalled with the TPMS back in.
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If you feel adventurous @93civEJ1 I'd say unseat the bead yourself. If you deflate the tire to 0psi (pull the core out) and use a 2x6 or 2x8 positioned by the valve and drive the truck onto it (or another vehicle (be prepared to let more pressure out if the core doesn't come out). Make sure you lay the wood on the rubber only and leave the vehicle parked on it to keep the tire pinned down.

From there you should be able to uninstall the TPMS and install a basic rubber valve. Unless you have a compressor at home you'll most likely need to take it to a shop (or a friend with a compressor's house) to reseat the bead.

OR, don't install a valve and leave one bead unseated as a selling feature "Install your own TPMS or valve".

@Crikeymike the tire won't necessarily turn unless you completely uninstall the tire.

There will be a small difference in the balance from TPMS to rubber valve, but it'll be insignificant.

I've done this, it works.
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I'd move the TPMS sensors over. Tire shops don't charge to transfer the TPMS sensors over -they charge you as if it's a tire change-over.

So, it's the cost benefit of how much you want to spend vs time spent lugging shit back and forth from shops. New TPMS sensors for me were $65 ea which means $260. Or, pay to have the TPMS sensors pushed over for the cost of a tire changeover which, for where I live, is around $130. There was, however, a $6/sensor part that they needed in order to install the TPMS sensors on my new set of rims. So, $154 vs $260.

Moving the sensors over, you save $100 depending on how expensive/cheap you can pick up the TPMS sensors for and how much local shops charge for the tire changeover.
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I'd move the TPMS sensors over. Tire shops don't charge to transfer the TPMS sensors over -they charge you as if it's a tire change-over.

So, it's the cost benefit of how much you want to spend vs time spent lugging shit back and forth from shops. New TPMS sensors for me were $65 ea which means $260. Or, pay to have the TPMS sensors pushed over for the cost of a tire changeover which, for where I live, is around $130. There was, however, a $6/sensor part that they needed in order to install the TPMS sensors on my new set of rims. So, $154 vs $260.

Moving the sensors over, you save $100 depending on how expensive/cheap you can pick up the TPMS sensors for and how much local shops charge for the tire changeover.

Yeah thats my thought too, but from what I know, the TPMS have been on there for 70k miles (i bet they are the originals in the aftermarket wheels on my 4R). So I am not sure if there is benefit to juts saving the money and disabling the light.

My head says to have them switched over. My pocket says dont worry about it. LOL
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Yeah thats my thought too, but from what I know, the TPMS have been on there for 70k miles (i bet they are the originals in the aftermarket wheels on my 4R). So I am not sure if there is benefit to juts saving the money and disabling the light.

My head says to have them switched over. My pocket says dont worry about it. LOL
haha I hear ya, but for the $130, the tpms is a good peace of mind, imo. You could possibly save a tire from getting shredded (catch it before it gets too flat) or even a rim. So, for the $130, you could potentially save a $200 tire and/or a $300-$400 rim.

Someone on this forum wrote this and it really resonated with me: pay once, cry once.

i.e. or possibly pay/cry more than once. At the very least, I would pull them to have on the side if you can do it yourself. That way you can install them should you have buyer's remorse thereby avoiding having to spend ~$300 on new tpms units.
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I bought a set of TPMS for $65 on eBay, search for "Genuine For Scion Toyota Lexus TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR TPMS 42607-33021 PMV-107J 4X"
Had them put in my new rims when I had new tires put on. The install and reprogramming was free. Now I can sell my original rims with the TPMS installed. A friend of mine got me a "deal" on the tires so I am not sure what they normally charge. The new sensors programmed in under 5 minutes and work great.
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Thanks all. I got it sorted. Discount tire actually just swapped em over for me when I got my tires mounted. Didnít even have to pay any extra and they rebuilt them as well. They just pushed the tire on one side. Pulled them out and popped a rubber stem in place and filled back up with air for me.
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