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Originally Posted by gsconzert
I watched that video and man does it have some great information. I do feel that they are a little biased for the last UCA since that is what they sell the most of though.
I like the JBA setup but with the recent insight into the rubbing, I am getting a bit nervous about pulling the trigger. The Dobinsons don't look like they have the ability to regrease them as easy as some of the other manufacturers do and that bothers me a bit as well.
I can tell I don't need anything as high end as the Total Chaos UCA's though
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No need to grease the dobinsons. Its like the oe uca!
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10-08-2019, 02:22 PM
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No need to grease the dobinsons. Its like the oe uca!
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No need to grease? So they are sealed like the OEM UCA's? What is the estimated life of them under "normal use". and yeah, I know normal use is incredibly subjective.
If they are sealed, that does peak some interest. Are the Icon's sealed too?
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10-08-2019, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gsconzert
No need to grease? So they are sealed like the OEM UCA's? What is the estimated life of them under "normal use". and yeah, I know normal use is incredibly subjective.
If they are sealed, that does peak some interest. Are the Icon's sealed too?
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icons arent sealed. you simply grease the delta joint every 3k miles, wipe off the excess from beneath and you're good to go. the uca bushings do need to be greased every once in a while too though.
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10-08-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gsconzert
No need to grease? So they are sealed like the OEM UCA's? What is the estimated life of them under "normal use". and yeah, I know normal use is incredibly subjective.
If they are sealed, that does peak some interest. Are the Icon's sealed too?
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They are sealed like the OE. Life of them, hmm not sure but according to Mike (Dobinsons guy), a few folks have had them last just as long if not longer than the OE ones.
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10-08-2019, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyKevin
No need to grease the dobinsons. Its like the oe uca!
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Exactly! No maintenance or need to grease Dobinson's
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10-08-2019, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyKevin
They are sealed like the OE. Life of them, hmm not sure but according to Mike (Dobinsons guy), a few folks have had them last just as long if not longer than the OE ones.
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I am not sure either as the Dobinsons have only been out for about a year now and he is saying that they last as long or longer then OE. That's a problem if OE or Dobinsons only last a year or so.
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10-08-2019, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by matoolie
Second these.
Sometimes JBA can cause tire clearance issues. Little more careful with wheel backspacing and offset.
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Day 1 on my Dobinsons UCA with 3 inch lifts. Very pleased so far.
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10-09-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 4R4Trout
I am not sure either as the Dobinsons have only been out for about a year now and he is saying that they last as long or longer then OE. That's a problem if OE or Dobinsons only last a year or so.
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It is true the 4runner UCA's have been out about a year, but the ball joint in the UCA's is rather standard. I am pretty sure the same ball joint is used in other UCA's for other vehicles. And this is what Dobinson Mike was referring to.
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10-09-2019, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by matoolie
It is true the 4runner UCA's have been out about a year, but the ball joint in the UCA's is rather standard. I am pretty sure the same ball joint is used in other UCA's for other vehicles. And this is what Dobinson Mike was referring to.
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Dobinson's use Sankei 555 ball joints
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Thinking about adding Dobs UCA to my 19Pro when I put the new Eibach 1.6” lift spring on the stock fox shocks. Potentially a dumb question but when maxing our the caster using these do they move the wheel forward in the wheelwell to allow more clearance to the body mount and mud flap? Anyone know if 285s on stock Pro wheels have clearance issues with the UCA?
I’m also debating using a 1/4” top out spacer to get a bit more lift in the front, adding 1.5” or 2” springs in rear, and putting on 34” tires. Would like to get the wheel forward a bit like people do with the SPC UCA for the larger tires. I don’t like the SPC as much due to risk of adjustment sliding around after setting it. Rather get the Dobs.
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07-15-2020, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyg182
Thinking about adding Dobs UCA to my 19Pro when I put the new Eibach 1.6” lift spring on the stock fox shocks. Potentially a dumb question but when maxing our the caster using these do they move the wheel forward in the wheelwell to allow more clearance to the body mount and mud flap? Anyone know if 285s on stock Pro wheels have clearance issues with the UCA?
I’m also debating using a 1/4” top out spacer to get a bit more lift in the front, adding 1.5” or 2” springs in rear, and putting on 34” tires. Would like to get the wheel forward a bit like people do with the SPC UCA for the larger tires. I don’t like the SPC as much due to risk of adjustment sliding around after setting it. Rather get the Dobs.
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You might have to push the front fender liner forward remove the mudflaps with 285s as they could rub a little when articulated. Not using Pro wheels but with trail wheels i was pretty much good on the road with 285s. Removed the mudflaps eventually as they rubbed a little when full compressed. No issues naw. If you're planning on running 34s, you will most definitely need to do a BMC. And yes, increasing caster does move the wheel forward and away from the body mount. I got about 3.9 from my dobinsons (2-2.5 lift somewhere ish).
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07-15-2020, 10:57 PM
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Thanks. Most interested in clearance between tire and UCA. Realize BMC, no mudflaps and moving fender liner forward are needed.
Wondering if I’ll need wheel spacers so the tire will clear the uca. I believe I would with JBAs which is why I’m asking.
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07-15-2020, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyg182
Thanks. Most interested in clearance between tire and UCA. Realize BMC, no mudflaps and moving fender liner forward are needed.
Wondering if I’ll need wheel spacers so the tire will clear the uca. I believe I would with JBAs which is why I’m asking.
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I believe it was only an issue with the JBAs. That and I dont think the offset of the Pro wheel (+7) will cause any issues with the Dobby UCAs.
@ Crikeymike
can provide more insights.
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07-16-2020, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyg182
Thanks. Most interested in clearance between tire and UCA. Realize BMC, no mudflaps and moving fender liner forward are needed.
Wondering if I’ll need wheel spacers so the tire will clear the uca. I believe I would with JBAs which is why I’m asking.
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I believe it was only an issue with the JBAs. That and I dont think the offset of the Pro wheel (+7) will cause any issues with the Dobby UCAs.
@ Crikeymike
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Clearance from the coils to the UCA's will be fine with the Dobinsons UCA's.
Between the tire and the UCA, the Dobinsons have as much clearance as you can get since the ball joint cup doesn't have "excess meat" around it like the JBA's do. That being said, wide tires on stock wheels with a bad offset can still possibly make contact with UCA's.
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07-16-2020, 12:34 PM
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I just purchased a set of the Camburg Ball-Joint UCA's. Haven't installed them yet, but they will be paired with the OME BP-51 I am installing now.
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