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Old 12-02-2019, 03:45 PM #16
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Sounds like your wife is fortunate to be alive. Hopefully her recovery will be complete and without complications.
As for your lessons learned, all good for after the fact but zero on the preventive side. I don’t mean to be harsh but the obvious omission is to slow down. Yea I know I wasn’t there, however post inclement weather accident reports rarely omit mentioning excessive speed for the conditions as a factor. Whenever the road surface is contaminated, i.e. wet, frost, hail, snow, tire adhesion is compromised. Wanna see someone’s eyes roll to the top of their head, ask them how and when hydroplaning occurs. Huh? Further, it rarely occurs to drivers to pull off the road and “shelter in place” (restaurant) until conditions improve, and they always do even if it takes awhile. None of us have some place we have to be if we never arrive.
Not suggesting you should “mansplain” this to your wife unless you want to accept responsibility for her accident, not to mention have it come up in unrelated discussion (argument) years from now. After 44
years of marriage (incarceration) to the same woman I’ve picked up a few “rules of thumb”, just sayin.
Cool story bro. This helps the situation how?
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The Runner can be replaced she cannot glad to hear she's ok!!
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Well that is another hit on the BF All Terrains for their traction is heavy rain.
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She is lucky

Thank God wife is ok, she will heal eventually. Car can be replaced life can't.
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Wow.. Glad she is OK. Good thing she was able to get out and call 911. Scary situation for sure.
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Well that is another hit on the BF All Terrains for their traction is heavy rain.
I’m not sure the tires had anything to do with it.

I wasn’t with her and she doesn’t remember much of the crash and I haven’t pushed for details all things considered.
But like I said I’ve used BFG ATs for decades and never had an issue in the rain.

If or when I get more details about the crash I may change my tune.
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Revisiting this, and again, very thankful that she's doing as well as she is.

Looking at the pics, it seems that the roll was mostly airborne, as it doesn't appear that the driver's side or top impacted anything. That's a good thing, I'm guessing - maybe she didn't get tossed around as much as she would have in a 'log roll' type of accident. Not an expert here, just thinking.

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I noticed the same, when she told me non of the glass on the driver side broke I thought maybe she did a nose dive and then it tipped on its side.

But she went about 100’ down the slope, so no way it didn’t roll some.

And with how steep the slope is it wouldn’t surprise me if she was airborne for most of it, as horrifying as that is.
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I am so sorry your wife experienced this. And you must be so stressed. Heal well.

I’d hate to think what would have happened if you had a 50 pound fridge like the Dometic CFX65W in the back. I can’t imagine there’s a strapping method that could hold that thing in a rollover crash.
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I am so sorry your wife experienced this. And you must be so stressed. Heal well.

I’d hate to think what would have happened if you had a 50 pound fridge like the Dometic CFX65W in the back. I can’t imagine there’s a strapping method that could hold that thing in a rollover crash.
Actually there are ways of strapping it down properly to keep it from flying about, but most people don't do that.
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Damn, all things considered, she's one insanely lucky lady! So glad she's ok!!

Like other said... maybe time to reevaluate all loose objects in the back of the car.

Maybe time to come up with some good mounted systems for storage.

Those pictures are horrible, but they still make me feel pretty good about the overall safety of the T4R.

Again, well wishes!

Assuming you guys will be getting another T4R?
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I am so sorry your wife experienced this. And you must be so stressed. Heal well.

I’d hate to think what would have happened if you had a 50 pound fridge like the Dometic CFX65W in the back. I can’t imagine there’s a strapping method that could hold that thing in a rollover crash.
Thank you.

I would be confident in ratchet straps keeping it in place. The fire extinguisher was held in place by quick fists and stayed put

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Damn, all things considered, she's one insanely lucky lady! So glad she's ok!!

Like other said... maybe time to reevaluate all loose objects in the back of the car.

Maybe time to come up with some good mounted systems for storage.

Those pictures are horrible, but they still make me feel pretty good about the overall safety of the T4R.

Again, well wishes!

Assuming you guys will be getting another T4R?
Thank you.
We are very happy with how the 4runner protected her. We're currently considering another 4runner(would be our third) or the Subaru Ascent.

Main reason we would go with the accent over the 4runner is the additional safety of the lower center of gravity, AWD and some better safety features. Oh and price, but that's kind of the last consideration.

I will continue to not hesitate to recommend the 4runner to anyone looking for an SUV.
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I love seeing the passenger area hold up well.
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Add me to your list of well wishers... I'm really glad to hear her body was able to heal! Much better than looking for a donor for parts.
And, also add me to the list of those of us that get to use this as a really good wake-up call for our loading. The fortunate/unfortunate advantage of our SUV's is what we can carry, and thinking about what's in mine right now I can only imagine what would hit me in the head. I just figured out what I'm doing this weekend!
Third thing... training to use the assets we have. Your statement about having a trauma kit, but not really feeling comfortable about using it, reminds me that I need to share that knowledge with my own loved ones. Something bad happens when I'm not there, or when it's to me and I can't direct the treatment, the lack of knowing what to do is really going to sting.

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Thank you.

I would be confident in ratchet straps keeping it in place. The fire extinguisher was held in place by quick fists and stayed put.
I'm not sure that I'd feel comfy with the quick fists holding the extinguisher in place. While it worked admirably in this case, a different kind of accident could have resulted in the quick fist breaking and becoming a projectile.

The cooler needs to be butted up against the seat back (to keep it from moving forward), against one side (to keep it from moving to that side) and ratcheted down to keep it from moving upwards or to the other side. Make sure you also ratchet it down to keep it from moving backwards.

Think of everything like a baby car seat - if it moves once strapped in, then it isn't strapped in properly.

As an aside, I've seen an injury resulting from the corner of a flying Kleenex box.
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