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I had initially felt the headlights were fine, especially high beams, but with some snow and rain i find they are terrible compared to my other cars that had top tier HID's.
So i am going to have to do something. I would rather not spend big bucks but IMO that's the only way to do it right. Key for me is reliability, all my other cars never had an issue with the HID's and that's what i want here.
Its possible better fog lights would help since i need more of the ground lit up, but headlights is where i think i need improvement? Been reading that Morimoto HID's with 5500K are good.
Ill be stopping by my local vehicle builder guy who does some crazy custom off road stuff and see what he suggests as well.
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12-05-2019, 07:44 PM
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I did the LED route and the cutoff was too abrupt. Modified the H9 and the light output is amazing in the rain and snow compared to stock. Modified H9 Is the way to go
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12-05-2019, 07:54 PM
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I must be the only guy on here that thinks the OEM headlights are fine.
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12-05-2019, 08:18 PM
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12-05-2019, 08:18 PM
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I must be the only guy on here that thinks the OEM headlights are fine.
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I haven't had any problems myself. So there are two of us.
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12-05-2019, 09:34 PM
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The headlights are fine.
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12-05-2019, 10:25 PM
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I haven't had any problems myself. So there are two of us.
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I've been reading the threads and trying to find a better option. I even ordered the H9 before I found out you had to modify them and they didn't last but about a year or so. So, I'm just going to stick with the stock OEM for now. I'll decide on a better option when they burn out. I run the fog lights most of the time and it's growing on me that these are fine.
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12-06-2019, 10:13 AM
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I haven't had any problems myself. So there are two of us.
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I think they are ok as well, but I drive in the city mostly. I think those that mod the lights fall into the group that really needs stronger lights, and those that just want to screw around with something else on their rig.
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12-06-2019, 10:19 AM
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I just installed the Morimoto LED Headlights and LOVE them!!! Got them on BF sale and they are EASY to install!! Greatly improved the night vision for sure.. Also they aren't a crazy output so your not blinding other drivers..
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12-06-2019, 10:56 AM
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Stock headlights are OK. Do I wish they were better, yes.
Am I going to go out and put in aftermarket bulbs and blind other drivers, no.
You guys running night splitters, super bright LED's, plasma retina searing 5K ultras, Morimotos that require boosters and fans or whatever they're called... please tell me what you do when others flash their brights at you, do flip them off, do you blast that other driver with your brights or your light bar? Do you laugh at them?
If you get brighted even once a week it's too much. Remember that for every one driver that has the balls to flash you, there are dozens that are blinded and don't know why or what to do, they're just trying to stay on the road get past you so their eyes can recover.
Sure some of you re-aim your lights a bit lower, do you still get flashed on occasion?
Is your safety, when you light up the road WAY more than stock, more important than that soccer mom who has to shield her eyes from your blinding lights?
If you've re-aimed your night splitters to the point that you no longer get flashed, that's good.
A jeep yesterday had insanely bright fogs and searing aftermarket headlights, I couldn't bright that chump because I was trying to block the light with my hand and I literally couldn't see a damn thing.
F-150 guy in the AM drop off line at school has his blinding behind the grill light bar on all the time, gotta show off that sweet mod!!
So yes I'm highly annoyed.
Again those of you that don't get flashed, and re-aim- thanks for the effort.
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12-06-2019, 11:49 AM
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Stock headlights are OK. Do I wish they were better, yes.
Am I going to go out and put in aftermarket bulbs and blind other drivers, no.
You guys running night splitters, super bright LED's, plasma retina searing 5K ultras, Morimotos that require boosters and fans or whatever they're called... please tell me what you go when others flash their brights at you, do flip them off, do you blast that other driver with your brights or your light bar? Do you laugh at them?
If you get brighted by others you suck, even once a week is too much. Remember that for every one driver that has the balls to flash you, there are dozens that are blinded and don't know why or what to do, they're just trying to stay on the road get past you so their eyes can recover.
Sure some of you re-aim your lights a bit lower, do you still get flashed on occasion?
Is your safety, when you light up the road WAY more than stock, more important than that soccer mom who has to shield her eyes from your blinding lights?
If you've re-aimed your night splitters to the point that you no longer get flashed, that's good. If you still get flashed and say "F-it loser!" you're a first class A-hole.
A jeep yesterday had insanely bright fogs and searing aftermarket headlights, I couldn't bright that chump because I was trying to block the light with my hand and I literally couldn't see a damn thing.
F-150 guy in the AM drop off line at school has his blinding behind the grill light bar on all the time, gotta show off that sweet mod!!
So yes I'm highly annoyed.
DOT legal- HA! You say F&#* that it's my safety first screw the other drivers, police and inspection stations right?
Again those of you that don't get flashed, and re-aim- thanks for the effort.
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This is the exact reason I went with a full retrofit (to get the best cutoff and control of light as I could) as opposed to possibly scattering light onto other drivers if I went with just a bulb replacement on stock projectors. I also purposely aimed my lights lower to prevent blinding other drivers, which is a must especially when you have a lift. I see way too many lifted trucks and SUV’s that don’t take the time to adjust their lights. It’s dangerous. I haven’t been flashed yet, and I don’t expect to.
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12-06-2019, 12:15 PM
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I traded in a 2010 FX35 for my 2019 SR5 Premium. I think the FX had HID from the factory so I'm slowly getting used to the reduced output. The lights on it were bright but not near as bright as what I'm seeing out there today. I rarely got flashed with them and would love to get the same setup in the 4Runner but I'm not willing to spend that much money and risk blinding people.
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12-06-2019, 12:47 PM
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I put the Morimoto HIDs in this past weekend and re-aimed, but I did get flashed yesterday a couple of times. Apologies to those affected. I'll be tweaking that alignment some more. If it comes down to the point that the beam pattern of the adjusted lights makes them unusable for me while not blinding oncomers, I'll remove them.
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12-06-2019, 01:50 PM
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Stock headlights are OK. Do I wish they were better, yes.
Am I going to go out and put in aftermarket bulbs and blind other drivers, no.
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The stock headlights are okay. But with options to make them better to help improve safety for all its only logical to try and improve them if one can.
People are not intentionally upgrading there headlights to blind people (I hope not). Not blinding others is part of safety while driving. Otherwise i would just run my brights all the time.
My Acura had one of the best stock HID set ups that were 100x brighter and better coverage than my 4R. They were far better than many of the upgrades suggested. Though it was stock i would get people flashing me now and then, and i sure as hell was not going to downgrade my stock HID lights just for a few flashing me.
It was down right dangerous in my 4R with the passed snow and rain storm on the highway. I could not see the road well or the sitting water on the road.
So with the majority of headlights blowing away the 4R i see no harm in trying to make them brighter while respecting others that have to see them head on.
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12-06-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John in NC
Stock headlights are OK. Do I wish they were better, yes.
Am I going to go out and put in aftermarket bulbs and blind other drivers, no.
You guys running night splitters, super bright LED's, plasma retina searing 5K ultras, Morimotos that require boosters and fans or whatever they're called... please tell me what you go when others flash their brights at you, do flip them off, do you blast that other driver with your brights or your light bar? Do you laugh at them?
If you get brighted by others you suck, even once a week is too much. Remember that for every one driver that has the balls to flash you, there are dozens that are blinded and don't know why or what to do, they're just trying to stay on the road get past you so their eyes can recover.
Sure some of you re-aim your lights a bit lower, do you still get flashed on occasion?
Is your safety, when you light up the road WAY more than stock, more important than that soccer mom who has to shield her eyes from your blinding lights?
If you've re-aimed your night splitters to the point that you no longer get flashed, that's good. If you still get flashed and say "F-it loser!" you're a first class A-hole.
A jeep yesterday had insanely bright fogs and searing aftermarket headlights, I couldn't bright that chump because I was trying to block the light with my hand and I literally couldn't see a damn thing.
F-150 guy in the AM drop off line at school has his blinding behind the grill light bar on all the time, gotta show off that sweet mod!!
So yes I'm highly annoyed.
DOT legal- HA! You say F&#* that it's my safety first screw the other drivers, police and inspection stations right?
Again those of you that don't get flashed, and re-aim- thanks for the effort.
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A properly housed retrofit is fine or actual headlight swap like the Morimoto XB. Unfortunately most people do the drop-in HIDs which are not cool. I had to upgrade to something better because the headlights become basically useless in the early darkness, rain-filled pacific northwest evenings/nights.
I will say I have gotten flashed with the Morimoto XB headlight assemblies but that was only when I was towing with a 30-gal watertank-filled 2900lb travel trailer. Even with the weight distribution hitch, it was enough to tilt the front end enough to get some people to flash at me. Unfortunately, even OEM halogens will blind people under those circumstances.
I'm not going to re-aim my headlights every time I attach a trailer.
I didn't think "**** you losers" when I got flashed, I thought "sorry, there's really nothing I can do about this right now when I'm towing something that is set up about as properly as it possibly can be and it's dark as **** right now on these country roads."
In fact, the ******* in that situation was the douche in the jacked up full size pickup truck who thought it was proper retribution to turn on his lightbar in order to punish me.
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