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Old 12-11-2019, 05:55 PM #16
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It's Commiefornia. The liberals beg for high taxes. How else would they get all their "free stuff" that they feel entitled to? I say let the state spend it!
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I don't know if Toyota would do it for this department, but they 'sponsor' the ones used in San Diego for beach patrol. So, it could be one of those that are sold from one department to another, or it was an outright push from the manufacturer.
Plus, being a fleet manager in a government agency, I can vouch that the government price would be a good deal less than the deals you and I can walk into a dealership and get. Plus with the lower prices, options are easier to add if there's even the slightest reasonable request. Or even a package deal that has a rebate attached to it for upgrades.
I spoke with one of the SDFD lifeguards, and they have an excellent point for having crawl control, etc. when they're in the sand. They even train with the 4R's in a pile of loose sand to understand A-Trac and crawl control.
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lol. You guys sure are salty about a truck purchase you know nothing about. God forbid the people that save your life have a reliable comfortable vehicle.
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because a Chevy Tahoe is a much more cost effective truck...
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It’s actually their departmental mail delivery vehicle wish we had them here!
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I'm surprised it isn't more popular/common. The 4runner is a rugged, capable, and dependable body on frame vehicle so it fits right in. Especially given Cali's overall mountainous terrain and the amount of wildfires Cali has. Sure as heck better than the expeditions, tahoe's, and explorers most departments use.
Amen to that.

Here in Sonoma county we're wildfire central, and I've never seen a government 4Runner...lots of Explorers though.

...and you guys not from California commenting on the political and taxation climate really have no idea what you're talking about. Not everyone here is progressive (I'm certainly not), and we get just as screwed by the conservative federal government as we do by any local leftist. Case in point...thanks to the white house's brainiac tax plan capping mortgage interest and property taxes at a $10k total deduction, I'll leave about $30k on the table this year. Whoever said it's good for all or for the middle class is lying to you.
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Amen to that.

Here in Sonoma county we're wildfire central, and I've never seen a government 4Runner...lots of Explorers though.

...and you guys not from California commenting on the political and taxation climate really have no idea what you're talking about. Not everyone here is progressive (I'm certainly not), and we get just as screwed by the conservative federal government as we do by any local leftist. Case in point...thanks to the white house's brainiac tax plan capping mortgage interest and property taxes at a $10k total deduction, I'll leave about $30k on the table this year. Whoever said it's good for all or for the middle class is lying to you.
don't you know? If you like trucks or offroading or other "manly" American stuff, it's hip to hate California and throw in as many "commie" insults as possible. Actual knowledge or thinking be damned.
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The amount of people in this thread that can't tell what trim this is... comical.

SR5, TRD OR, or Limited. All are distinctively different.

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because a Chevy Tahoe is a much more cost effective truck...
that isn't just false, it's hilariously false.

True Cost to Own Tahoe: $61,202

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because a Chevy Tahoe is a much more cost effective truck...
And it's a POS that'll last 1/2 as long as a 4R if that! Also twice the price..........
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Amen to that.

Here in Sonoma county we're wildfire central, and I've never seen a government 4Runner...lots of Explorers though.

...and you guys not from California commenting on the political and taxation climate really have no idea what you're talking about. Not everyone here is progressive (I'm certainly not), and we get just as screwed by the conservative federal government as we do by any local leftist. Case in point...thanks to the white house's brainiac tax plan capping mortgage interest and property taxes at a $10k total deduction, I'll leave about $30k on the table this year. Whoever said it's good for all or for the middle class is lying to you.
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don't you know? If you like trucks or offroading or other "manly" American stuff, it's hip to hate California and throw in as many "commie" insults as possible. Actual knowledge or thinking be damned.
"Democrat, republican, libertarian.... Does it really matter what party that your in?... They're leading us to WW3 and this is what you call democracy."

People that scream lib this or con that fail to recognize they're getting conned on either end of the spectrum. People are too busy idolizing politicians and voting for their team instead of their country. It's all about being right (factually based or not) discourse be damned.

Just as easy to rip apart alabama as it is california so everyone shut up and talk about the pretty firetruck. Nobody cares what you think about states rights or political leanings.
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Hmmm...the wheels, stick shift, and hood tell me it's a TRD Off Road. I wonder why they did not get SR5s and save the taxpayer a buck (unless they got special pricing). Or maybe they're 2019's that someone wanted to get rid of.

Anyway, did the vehicle have a sunroof? It'd be interesting to pull a VIN to see if it has KDSS.
If I was a firefighter I'd rather have a gear shift for the 4WD than an electronic knob.
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that isn't just false, it's hilariously false.

True Cost to Own Tahoe: $61,202

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And it's a POS that'll last 1/2 as long as a 4R if that! Also twice the price..........

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I've just seen another City 4Runner in regular SLO city livery. Which leads me to believe the city bought them through Toyota and got some sort of discount as a previous poster mentioned. Now I'm waiting for them to hit Public Surplus so I can pick up an ORP for pennies on the dollar... Maybe 5-10 years?
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My hometown has the fire department with a 4runner limited
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