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Old 12-15-2019, 10:29 AM #1
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Led low beam with halogen high?

I need to up grade at least my low beam headlights 2015 4Runner, I just can’t see at night.
For now can I just add led low’s and keep the stock high beams?

I’ll finish the conversion later.
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Doing just the low beams is perfectly okay. I have the Morimoto 2Stroke LEDs for low beams and I’m not impressed. The general consensus is that HIDs are much better than LEDs just don’t go too blue (5k or 4.3/4.5k should work best for output).
Although, I did but some generic LEDs i got for free in my high beams and they are ridiculous. They put out almost as much light as my 30” LED light bar.
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Get both. I've DDM LEDs for high (9005) and those are superbright and worth every penny in my opinion. You can find cheaper stuff on E-bay but you know what they say about what you pay...

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I run LED low beam and driving lights. No need for high beams.
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Doing just the low beams is perfectly okay. I have the Morimoto 2Stroke LEDs for low beams and I’m not impressed. The general consensus is that HIDs are much better than LEDs just don’t go too blue (5k or 4.3/4.5k should work best for output).
Although, I did but some generic LEDs i got for free in my high beams and they are ridiculous. They put out almost as much light as my 30” LED light bar.
I’ll check Monday If HID are legal in Hawaii or if I’ll need to do a recon inspection.
PIA here in Hawaii
Here is what I found for Hawaii::

“Is a reconstructed vehicle permit required if only aftermarket headlight or taillight assemblies are installed on my vehicle?
If the only modification to the vehicle is replacement headlights or taillights, a reconstructed vehicle inspection or permit is not necessary.
Aftermarket lighting equipment installed on vehicles must be U.S. DOT approved and of correct colors; white for headlights and red for taillights.
Vehicles 1968 and newer require U.S. DOT approved side marker lights/ reflectors on the sides and must be of correct colors; amber on the front and red on the rear.
Aftermarket High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights are prohibited unless U.S. DOT approved for the vehicle installed upon.”

Are any of the HID dot approved?
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Are any of the HID dot approved?
Since they are already projector headlights, I would say It’s just a bulb replacement. The only modification you need to do is drill a hole in the dust covers to pass the ballast wires through.
You could always just put the old bulbs in for inspections right?
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I’ll check Monday If HID are legal in Hawaii or if I’ll need to do a recon inspection.
PIA here in Hawaii
Here is what I found for Hawaii::

“Is a reconstructed vehicle permit required if only aftermarket headlight or taillight assemblies are installed on my vehicle?
If the only modification to the vehicle is replacement headlights or taillights, a reconstructed vehicle inspection or permit is not necessary.
Aftermarket lighting equipment installed on vehicles must be U.S. DOT approved and of correct colors; white for headlights and red for taillights.
Vehicles 1968 and newer require U.S. DOT approved side marker lights/ reflectors on the sides and must be of correct colors; amber on the front and red on the rear.
Aftermarket High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights are prohibited unless U.S. DOT approved for the vehicle installed upon.”

Are any of the HID dot approved?
No. There are no aftermarket lighting options that meet the FMVSS.

While DOT does not "approve" anything, a manufacturer of aftermarket gear must certify that their product meets ALL of the requirements of the FMVSS.

A note about the usual comment that "it is a projector housing so it is OK". That doesn't hold water either legally or in practice. Each bulb design (halogen, HID and LED) is different and requires its own housing design.
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Doing just the low beams is perfectly okay. I have the Morimoto 2Stroke LEDs for low beams and I’m not impressed. The general consensus is that HIDs are much better than LEDs just don’t go too blue (5k or 4.3/4.5k should work best for output).
Although, I did but some generic LEDs i got for free in my high beams and they are ridiculous. They put out almost as much light as my 30” LED light bar.
I too had the 2stroke 2.0s but I was content with them except for rain. In rain the 2.0 are about the same as stock halogen. The stock halogens were terrible and I tried a few halogen upgrades like brighter H11 and H9 mod but not happy with the "look" of halogen. I have since upgraded to the latest and greatest GTR Lighting Ultra 2 and they are definitely brighter than the 2stroke 2.0 but have not tried in rain yet.
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I need to up grade at least my low beam headlights 2015 4Runner, I just can’t see at night.
For now can I just add led low’s and keep the stock high beams?

I’ll finish the conversion later.
I’ve done the exact thing.. not worried too much about high beams, I will get to it but no rush!
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Driving visibility has been greatly improved after installing the Boslla B4 led headlight bulbs.
Have any way to verify that claim?

Here's a pretty scathing review of Boslla LED headlights, which falls in line with pretty much every other LED headlight bulb I've seen tested.

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I’ve done the exact thing.. not worried too much about high beams, I will get to it but no rush!
The best bang for your buck to improve your headlights is to keep a halogen bulb. Check out this comparison:

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Tacoma World

And more reading about why your LEDs are not helping:

Why Most LED Headlight Upgrades Don't Really Work: An Expert Explains
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The best bang for your buck to improve your headlights is to keep a halogen bulb. Check out this comparison:

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Tacoma World

And more reading about why your LEDs are not helping:

Why Most LED Headlight Upgrades Don't Really Work: An Expert Explains
That’s the crazy thing about changing it up or modding MY car, if I like something for the sole reason of LIKING it, or choosing what I WANT on MY truck, Then I’ll be happy no matter what in the end... regardless of the scientific reasoning against it or graphs and charts PRO halogen, if I did things that way and listened to everyone else’s OPINIONS or Reasons as to why I should and shouldn’t then it wouldn’t be MY build.. I LOVE MY LEDS ON MY TRUCK
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That’s the crazy thing about changing it up or modding MY car, if I like something for the sole reason of LIKING it, or choosing what I WANT on MY truck, Then I’ll be happy no matter what in the end... regardless of the scientific reasoning against it or graphs and charts PRO halogen, if I did things that way and listened to everyone else’s OPINIONS or Reasons as to why I should and shouldn’t then it wouldn’t be MY build.. I LOVE MY LEDS ON MY TRUCK
I think you’re taking their comment a little too personal. They just simply posted up some comparisons saying it was something to check out not that you personally made a mistake and should change what you’re happy with.

The chart is pro halogen because currently with the 5th Gen housings, a performance halogen seems to work better than an LED. When LED technology catches up and advances I’m sure that’ll be a different story.

I’ve run 4 different sets of LED lows on mine and either hated the output in certain conditions, or the beam pattern was lacking. I’m also not a fan of night driving as I’m very light sensitive. I ended up with the H9 conversion which has kept me pretty happy for the time being.

It’s you’re truck, do your thing man. If LEDs do everything you want and need, awesome I’m glad. So many people swear by HIDs too... I’ve tried those and disliked them as well haha
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The best bang for your buck to improve your headlights is to keep a halogen bulb. Check out this comparison:

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Tacoma World
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That TacomaWorld thread does recommend one LED bulb, the Hikaris:

"The best performing replacement LEDs by far are the Hikari Ultras covered in this post, which have better focus and output intensity than the competition. They are the only replacement LEDs I would recommend. Note they are outperformed by the best halogen performance upgrades."

I installed the Hikari Ultra LEDs in my 2015 TEP and am really happy with them. I shared how to get them into the housing without too much hassle in this thread.
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