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Old 01-04-2020, 02:32 AM #16
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You guys and headroom issues must be Giants! I'm 5-10 and have plenty of head room...unless your talking about getting head in an awkward position?
I also happen to like push to start. Different strokes for different folks
I'm 6' 2" and have no clearance issues with the moonroof. Different folks have different torsos/necks I guess.
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You can do much better and if they won't budge on price, for a white TRD Pro, get a 2020 unless the safety updates aren't something you want.

Since you didn't mention if price is OTD with TTL, I'll assume that this is pre-TTL.

At $50k MSRP, you should be shooting for at least 15% off MSRP being that it's now the new year. We picked up our $51.1k VDB in October for $43.7k before TTL.

At $47,104, the dealer is only giving you slightly under 7% off MSRP which is a joke on a color that can be purchased in any year..

Counter back at $41k and see how motivated they are in moving that particular car. Good luck.
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Local dealership has a 2019 Pro on the lot, sticker is a bit over $50k. They are asking $47104. Would this be a fair price?
I got $4607 off the sticker of my ‘19. If your dealer really wants to sell it, they can do the same.
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2020 comes with the TRD exhaust, rear dual climate controls with USB ports, bigger touch screen, TSS and some other little things. I think they also come with black lugs nuts. The previous years are chrome.

I’d pay little more and get a 2020. That’s just me.
YMMV

I would also think that a 2020 with the added tech and features would have more resale value over a 2019, besides being different years.
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That's not enough of a discount imho. I would just get a 2020, the updates are worth it. I almost bought a 2019 in voodoo blue but I'm glad I waited.

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Keep in mind the complaints regarding the black box and associated issues. Also iirc lifting the vehicle causes this to be effected as well. Search and these things will come up.
Are the few differences worth the extra $? Also I am assuming you could get low to zero apr on the 19 as well so more money saved if you finance.

Black lug nutz? Shoooof...forget saving $4k, lemme hit dat 2020 cuh! 🙄
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Try to negotiate a bit lower and get the 19. White is the best color anyway. Plus you won't have to deal with the TSS being an issue if you ever want to do mods.
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Keep in mind the complaints regarding the black box and associated issues. Also iirc lifting the vehicle causes this to be effected as well. Search and these things will come up.
Are the few differences worth the extra $? Also I am assuming you could get low to zero apr on the 19 as well so more money saved if you finance.

Black lug nutz? Shoooof...forget saving $4k, lemme hit dat 2020 cuh! ��
Yes, believe it or not a more modernized vehicle is worth it at this price point.
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Too bad it's white. Otherwise I'd say totally worth it. Not sacrificing headroom to a moonroof is a plus, and being able to use a proper key instead of a push-button is an even bigger plus.
Did something change? We have a 15 with the moonroof and I am 6'2 and have no issues at all.
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IMO, If it's not one of the special TRD Pro only colors I don't think it is ever worth it.
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Did something change? We have a 15 with the moonroof and I am 6'2 and have no issues at all.
6’2” 240 lb no problems w HR or hip room on my 2020 coming from 19 LC and before that 17 pro
Leg room is a plenty.
Buy to 20 AG!
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Yes, believe it or not a more modernized vehicle is worth it at this price point.
Keep telling yourself whatever you need to justify spending a lot more and buying a ‘20 ��
The ACTUAL reasons for buying a pro are the same on 19 as 20.
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Keep telling yourself whatever you need to justify spending a lot more and buying a ‘20 ��
The ACTUAL reasons for buying a pro are the same on 19 as 20.
Have to disagree. I had a 19 orp I could have easily made identical to a pro for less$$$. The pro is like Northface jacket or Starbucks. Paying for the name, not a superior product. My reason for the 20 pro is 2fold. I wanted the label and I got it. Next is the 8" screen. There are zero aftermarket solutions that are acceptable to me for a larger screen. The Sony and Alpine that stick out look stupid imo. A normal double din looks stupid imo having a big empty surround with zero knobs. Only one that looks cool is the T9 that is a cheap Chinese knockoff with problems.
The pro is just a trim level. Daytonaviolet? Has the best of all world's, stripped his limited and made it onto a pro. If they offered limited features in a pro, I would be driving one now

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If they offered limited features in a pro, I would be driving one now
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You guys and headroom issues must be Giants! I'm 5-10 and have plenty of head room...
Well I guess I'm a full-size person, 6'3", weighing in at over 1/10 of a metric ton.

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unless your talking about getting head in an awkward position?
I also happen to like push to start. Different strokes for different folks
Hahahaha, well on that note, I do also prefer steering column mounted shifters for automatic transmissions. Guess I'm an old fogey.
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