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Old 01-13-2020, 09:34 PM #31
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I have an SR5, with a recently installed Eibach Pro Truck Kit. Before the kit was installed the ride was comfortable, a little mushy in the turns. After the kit the ride is comfortable and a little "tighter or more planted on the road". Personally i LOVE the new feel to the T4R.

one of the reasons people buy the T4R is because they are fairly easy (albeit not cheap) to mod.

that said, think of it this way: (this is an oversimplification)
if your driving cross country and you'd like to do it with the ride of an impala - the JGC is the choice (super plush and comfy). If you'd rather do the drive in a RAM / F150, the T4R is a great place to start (knowing the tires and suspension are some of the first mods made to these vehicles).
Not looking for an Impala ride, but I certainly don't want a Wrangler ride.

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Don't buy a JGC new, it will lose about 10 grand driving it off the lot. Reliability has been horrible. Sometimes people get lucky, I guess the ones that are lucky are the ones that were built by Chrysler employees who don't smoke pot at lunch.

It drives much more comfortably than a 4Runner, but it has 4wheel independent suspension and is not body on frame. Of course it drives better and of course it gets better gas mileage. But it won't match the 4Runner in off-road prowess. I bought my 4Runner to go off road.
True, but if you buy a used one it might break on the way out of the lot....

Anybody spent lots of time in a GX? I've driven a Prado for a week and it was perfectly fine - even on pockmarked roads outside of Mosul.

If the 4R drives/rides even close to a GX/Prado, then I think I'd be happy.
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I had a 16 WK2 Summit 4x4 with the hemi V-8, trader my JKU Rubicon for it and regretted every day of the Grand Cherokee. GC rides like youíre in a recliner, steering was responsive, road noise was nonexistent on my Summit trim. My hatred stemmed from how NOT fun it was to drive. It was just a SUV in a sea of lookalike SUVs and midsized crossovers. It was really lacking that stand out factor. Then my transmission started skipping gears at under 2 years of ownership. Swapped the GC for a Gt350 and am currently waiting on my Toyota dealer to get my 20 black TRD Pro in.

Iíve regretted getting rid of 2 vehicles in my driving life- my 3rd gen 4Runner Limited and my Rubicon. Doubt Iíll miss the GT350 much in the long run as well.
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I had a 16 WK2 Summit 4x4 with the hemi V-8, trader my JKU Rubicon for it and regretted every day of the Grand Cherokee. GC rides like youíre in a recliner, steering was responsive, road noise was nonexistent on my Summit trim. My hatred stemmed from how NOT fun it was to drive. It was just a SUV in a sea of lookalike SUVs and midsized crossovers. It was really lacking that stand out factor. Then my transmission started skipping gears at under 2 years of ownership. Swapped the GC for a Gt350 and am currently waiting on my Toyota dealer to get my 20 black TRD Pro in.

Iíve regretted getting rid of 2 vehicles in my driving life- my 3rd gen 4Runner Limited and my Rubicon. Doubt Iíll miss the GT350 much in the long run as well.
Thanks for the review. The ride and road noise portion sound good - the numbness and tranny issues sound miserable.

I regret selling many cars, primarily my 56 300 Adenauer, my 600 and 300 SEL 6.3 - If I'd have kept those, then I could retire now.
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Does anyone here regret buying the 4R?
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Does anyone here regret buying the 4R?
I am the ******* that paid mark up when the Pros first came out and still do not regret it. No rig is perfect. I solo camp in remote places for multi days and reliability was at the top of my list. It's never let me down.
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As a kind of telling note, I posted the same question both here, an Acura forum and the Grand Cherokee forum.

Here and on the Acura forum, the answers have been leaning towards the 4R. I was a bit surprised by that on the Acura forum, thinking that I'd get a few recommendations for the RDX)

On the GC forum, there have been almost 90 views and zero responses...
Let me put on my surprise face. You know what really got me and led to my getting rid of it? The depreciation hit it took. My $50k loaded out with every bell and whistle Summit hemi V8 was worth $26k just under two and a half years later. In immaculate condition with 40k. My 11 JKUR with 110k was worth more than that in 16. I know cars depreciate, but Iíd hoped for way better with the GC. They have well known transmission issues and iirc from my Jeep forum reading the interior and tech integrity is not there long term. Iíd hoped it would be a long term daily driver and boy was I wrong on many fronts.
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Let me put on my surprise face. You know what really got me and led to my getting rid of it? The depreciation hit it took. My $50k loaded out with every bell and whistle Summit hemi V8 was worth $26k just under two and a half years later. In immaculate condition with 40k. My 11 JKUR with 110k was worth more than that in 16. I know cars depreciate, but I’d hoped for way better with the GC. They have well known transmission issues and iirc from my Jeep forum reading the interior and tech integrity is not there long term. I’d hoped it would be a long term daily driver and boy was I wrong on many fronts.
Yeah, they're up to 145 views and not one response.

Normally I don't worry about depreciation on a vehicle like this because I'd normally keep it for 10+ years, but I doubt that the GC would make it.

I think a question now is - new 4R or a two year old GX.
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I am the ******* that paid mark up when the Pros first came out and still do not regret it. No rig is perfect. I solo camp in remote places for multi days and reliability was at the top of my list. It's never let me down.
Funny, there are nearly zero posts here about broken down 4Rs. There are problem of course, but few that say that the car has left them stranded.

Actually, the only one I can think of is the guy with the horn relay that killed his car.

The JGC forums are rife with broken GCs and "I just bought a 2015 GC and it needs $10k in repairs" - you don't see that here unless it is self inflicted.
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The other thing I find unusual about the JGC forums is that people are wanting to upgrade their 2015 or 16 to a newer model.

I'm sure that happens here too but I haven't seen it.
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