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Do I need a ramp?

Getting ready for first self done oil change. Got a metal replacement oil filter housing, Motive filter wrench & drain tool, drain plug washers and filters. Havenít been under the beast yet, but wondering if you use ramps or can access everything without or on a creeper (my preference)?
Iíve had the dealer experience with previous vehicles & donít need to the lesson again.
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You can probably get by without ramps or jack stands; but I wouldn't. I've done an oil change and was glad I had the extra room. For one thing you'll have a time getting the skid plate all the way off without raising the vehicle up some.
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If u r lifted on 33s, you can probably get away with just driving on some scrap 2x4. Thatís what I do.
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I will be attempting my first change on my 17 soon. I changed my oil on my 4th gens (03 and 08) and never used a ramp, just a floorjack but I'm sure ramps would be nice peace of mind. Like flyrv9 said, the issue is the skid that has to pivot down
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I got spoiled with my last daily driver (still have it). I can change the oil from up top without crawling underneath.
1968 F100 with 240 cu/in straight six.
Yes, after 30 years with this truck I still have to fish the drain plug out of the drain pan 50% of the time.

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I got spoiled with my last daily driver (still have it). I can change the oil from up top without crawling underneath.
1968 F100 with 240 cu/in straight six.
Yes, after 30 years with this truck I still have to fish the drain plug out of the drain pan 50% of the time.
I know exactly what you mean. I have a 1971 Datsun 510 that I can change the oil from the top. The only difference is that I drop the plug into the drain pan some number approaching 100%.

Anyway to the OP, I'd recommend safely lifting the vehicle in some fashion. Even if you don't absolutely need to. The reason is that oil changes are an excellent opportunity to do a visual inspection of the underbits. The kind of inspection that dealerships claim to perform, but typically don't.
Though ramps are easier (and usually safer) to use, I prefer putting my rides on jack stands. That way I can check out the ball joints and front bearings while it's up.

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Getting ready for first self done oil change. Got a metal replacement oil filter housing, Motive filter wrench & drain tool, drain plug washers and filters. Havenít been under the beast yet, but wondering if you use ramps or can access everything without or on a creeper (my preference)?
Iíve had the dealer experience with previous vehicles & donít need to the lesson again.
Building a ramp out of 2x10's next week. I figure stacking them 4 or 5 high to get the desired height should do it. Have the same replacement parts that you do that I will need to install for the 1st oil change. Thought about doing a spin-on filter conversion, but will see how the factory canister process works out.
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I have an aftermarket skid and I pull up on 2 2x10s that I put together to make a ramp and Iíve got plenty of room. You can do it without a lift or ramps on the ground with the factory skid but itís tight. When I did I used a piece of cardboard instead of my creeper to get under it but itís tight !!


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Thanks guys. The consensus is get it up off the ground; guess Iíll check out ramps as that seems quick and easy compared to jacking up and stands. Iím a little leery about raised up on 2x10ís but will check that out too.
As for dropping the drain plug into the pan and fishing for it later, isnít that s.o.p.?
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Thanks guys. The consensus is get it up off the ground; guess Iíll check out ramps as that seems quick and easy compared to jacking up and stands. Iím a little leery about raised up on 2x10ís but will check that out too.
As for dropping the drain plug into the pan and fishing for it later, isnít that s.o.p.?
I think the intent is to stack the 2X10s flat on the ground and perhaps nailing them together making a set of homemade ramps, I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.

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We've had 3 4runners and I've never lifted any of them to change the oil.

1 was completely stock, 1 was 2.5/1.5, my newest one is just 1" front level and I've never had a problem just laying underneath to change.

On my new one I have the full RCI skid package, I just remove the front one. Even though there's a hole cut out for the oil drain bolt, the oil always seems to eventually start dripping all over the topside of the skid, and I have to remove to clean anyways.
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No ramp is necessary and removing a stock skid is not a big deal. I briefly wedge a knee under it to hold in place for removing or installing bolts. Go get dirty!
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No need but it makes things easier.
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What the heck, Iíll give it a go without. Certainly donít need more stuff laying around taking up space in the garage.
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I can't imagine "needing" a set of ramps to do an oil change on a 4Runner. I've done mine numerous times without. And I'm not exactly the thinnest most spry guy either. I will admit it's way nicer to do it at work on the lift though. But that's often tied up hence the creeper use.
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