This part should help lean the non kdss guys over or at least the ones in the market for a 4Runner. I’m confident the kdss 4runners are now better with this product. You can now run the same extended travel rear shock the non kdss guys can run. And even longer as well.


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I bent my Oem track bar with the contact. But I drive like crazy lol.


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Do you have a picture of it?

KDSS abuse!!!! VTB!!! ;)

I don’t. I actually have a video. I’ll look for it today. What I meant to say that it bent around the first contact point which is the hard link side. The video you can see it bowing around it to get past that first contact point.


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Following along.

I've had a few people ask me already about running the Dobinsons LT rear shocks with these new brackets, and they won't work. They're still too long.

Dobinsons regular GS59-701 (and variants) 0-3" rear shocks are 23.8", I have them on my 4Runner, and they're just clearing the sway bar and track bar right now. That's why they're the longest listed for KDSS models.

The King's the OP is running for the test are extended travel Kings at 25.75", and clearing with the new brackets.

But Dobinsons GS59-575 (and variants) are 28.75" at full extension, still too long to run with any KDSS system in place.

Just putting that out there in case other people ask about it.

I think it’s possible but won’t know until I actually have that setup to test fit. But the 25.75” kings I have there still room for the up swing on the sway bar and the contact of the track bar. It’s just that my shocks are 25.75 which is the max extended shock length you can run with out loosing Oem bump travel which I know the Dobinsons setup doesn’t care for and lowers the bump stop location from my understanding.

Also , I just installed the drop block on a 4runner who is your customer( His name is Keith ) and his part number for the rear is the gs59-701 and he clearly was making contact. In fact before installing I jacked up the truck for him to show him where it was hanging up.

So after installing the blocks he had no more contact what so ever and can run longer for sure.

And last where are you taking the measurements from ? Kings kdss shock for the rear is 24.5” and doesn’t make contact.




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The standard way. From the base of the pin to the center of the lower eye for rear shocks in this case.

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Mike I called and left a message with my contact. Let’s chat tomorrow about this and we can make it work for you. Thanks in advance.


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So I don't have to look through 7 pages, is this for sale yet? If so, link?

Sent private message with link.

Just make sure you are actually getting contact. I’ve already refunded a few sets because the customer didn’t even need it. Just because one has shocks and a lift with kdss doesn’t mean you need it. I had a customer come over after buying them on the weekend. I offered to install for free for buyers when we released the product. And when he came over , first thing I asked is if they actually have seen the contact. He didn’t so I jacked his truck up and low and behold he didn’t have contact with his 2” lift and extended travel King shocks. So refunded him.

I totally could have installed and he would have not even know. But we are not like that.


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I'm one of the people you refunded. Thanks for just handling it immediately. I run Bilstein 5160 in the rear and it didn't need it.

After reading the above posts I'm planning for my next setup. The question becomes, what is the ideal compressed and extended length for maximum travel with KDSS spacer installed? Do you think we can get to maybe 27.5" of travel?

It’s all going to depend on what you are trying to achieve. I notice a lot of 4Runner guys go for really long shocks that yeah might give you more down travel from a specific ride height but also what’s happening is they are loosing the up travel. So technically not really long travel or longer travel. Just lower travel. Try to call me and let’s talk about how i would build it. And especially the ifs becomes the limiting factor on these trucks for the front. Only so much you can do before it starts to look stupid and too wide.

Send me a private message and leave your contact or get my number through there.

But yes there’s a way to run that shock with these spacers. At some point around 26.5” the contact will start to happen again but you can fix that with that pan hard correction bracket. Because that bracket limits your up travel, and the shock length of 27.5” is too long , you will need to run bump stops. Exact height will be determined by cycling the suspension. Some of these kits don’t even do that. Everything is on cad file and then produced.

So now at this point with the combination of the pan hard bar correction bracket and kdss drops you can droop further down and the purpose for the drop blocks at this point become a part that doesn’t allow the kdss sway bar to invert it self more then it is for sway bar and track bar contact.


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Sooooo..... Running these with my Sonorran Steel Radflo reservoir shocks that allow for additional up travel? Thoughts?

They will work perfect. Even tho the Sonoran bar gets rid of the contact of the sway bar and track bar , you can now run other parts link adjust your axle front to back depending on your lift height. But mainly what it will do now is give a bigger safety net for the kdss system inverting itself.

Sonoran bar guy says running any longer shocks is not advised because he’s at the limit where the sway bar wants to flip over and if it does you have problems as your piston will get pulled out of the kdss shock. The drops allow for more droop before inverting. Why would it invert? I don’t know how close his setup is as far as it inverting but say it’s at its limit. As time goes by , depending on how you drive or how hard you drive or maintenance schedules for suspension check. Your bushing at the pin top can wear down and allow the shock to come down some. Keep an eye out in that area. I personally hate pin tops.


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