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Old 01-18-2020, 10:24 PM #1
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Finding KDSS rigs

I thought Iíd start a thread on this because itís incredibly hard to find a new 4Runner if you live in the Gulf States Toyota region.

For some reason GST had literally zero rigs available with KDSS. From what Iíve gathered they just think no mountainous regions what this feature.

The cynical side to me wants to believe itís so they can add pointless features at port to raise prices rather than have KDSS added. See the right column of any window sticker on a GST rig and youíll see what I mean.

Anywho, the Rocky Mountain region (New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado & Utah) have an abundance of rigs with KDSS.

I found my new Ď20 ORP from Pueblo Toyota, who had 5 rigs, all WITH KDSS! I talked with Sam and Ryan there and they negotiated what I felt was a fair deal and helped transport the vehicle in an enclosed trailer down to me in Austin.

I think paying extra for the enclosed delivery is worth it and itís been nice knowing that I found a rig with everything I wanted on it that was literally not available in 4-6 states to the north & east of Texas. But going West and Northwest they are in abundance.

So if you have a rig with KDSS in the Gulf States region you have a unicorn! : )

Oh and the Rocky Mountain region seems to add NO extra features on at port like GST does. You can tell this by looking at the far right column in a window sticker (mine was blank!). No protection, cables, or any other stuff that GST always adds and basically forces you to purchase.

Hope this helps someone else in their searches.
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I have a 2012 trail with KDSS and got it in San Antonio from a dealer who was selling it as a lifted SR5. They had no idea it was on there.
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When I was looking in 2017 Amarillo had one and that is it. I bought mine in Peoria, Az because it was cheaper than Amarillo. I just flew out and drove it back. Stayed in Tucson on the way back for a mini vacation. It is stupid Toyota doesnít ship any to Gulf states unless it is a special order.

GX460s all have KDSS by the way but are usually 5 to 10 grand more expensive.
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I understand what you're going through. However, in the end, it always distills down to two variables...patience or price. If you don't have much of the former, you'll spend much more on the latter.
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Near Seattle finding one with kdss and sunroof delete was difficult. Took three separate boats from Japan before one arrived.
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I live in Miami, bought mine while I was out of town on business in Virginia.
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I live in Orlando I ordered mine because I wanted one without a sunroof. Ended up getting about 8% off MSRP. If you do find one on a lot and there are youíll probably get a better deal than that but I was very specific about what I wanted.


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I think GS and SE Toyota are privately owned or something distributors and the rest are corporate. Hence the abundance of port add on garbage packages around here. I got mine with KDSS but it was used and KDSS was even more rare back then. Going just one or two states over to New Mexico, Arizona or Colorado seems like what several have done. Glad you could negotiate a fair deal and have it transported too.
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I have a 2013 Trail I bought from Hollywood, FL.

It was one of 5 TEs in SE Toyota's inventory at the time, of those 2 could still be ordered. I ordered the one without KDSS, but when it came to the dealer it magically grew the KDSS.

Dealer wanted me to buy a 4x2 SR5 and asked me why would I ever need the 4WD.

It spent most of its life in the mountains of CO and WY, this is its first winter in a warm climate.

I drove it to Hollywood, CA a few months ago just to complete its life cycle.

That's my random ass story of the week.
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It makes it difficult because most dealers and private sellers don't even list it as an included option. When I bought mine private party off CL it didn't list that it had KDSS but it had everything else I was looking for. It wasn't until i looked underneath while test driving that I saw it had KDSS.
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Didnít want sunroof and KDSS wasnít a must have for me. Shopped for 2 weeks in December... and stumbled upon my Ď20 ORP KDSS w/o sunroof. I think itís the only one within 150 miles of NYC with such configuration. I was lucky!


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GS and SE are privately controlled distributors.

They’re creation was part of Toyota’s deal to sell in America and not control the total supply of their product.
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