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Old 01-22-2020, 09:30 AM #1
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Need New Shocks!

Hi Peeps,

Needing some new shocks for my 2015 Trail. My 4Runner is primarily a pavement queen. I see a lot of mentions for Bilstein 5100s.

Is this shock harsh? I absolutely do not want a harsh ride (and thereby turning my vehicle into a squeaky rattle trap).

I've read some post on one of the Tacoma forums where the ride is harsh even when the shocks are left at zero (no lift).

Thoughts? Should I be looking at other shocks that approximate the stocker's ride quality?

Thanks Much!
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If you want to replace with a stock setup. I have a full set of almost new (less than 1000 miles) stock shocks (front and rear) from a 2017 Trail. You can have them for $100.00 plus the shipping cost. This would include front shocks and coils and the rear shocks (no springs for the rear).
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Hi Peeps,

Needing some new shocks for my 2015 Trail. My 4Runner is primarily a pavement queen. I see a lot of mentions for Bilstein 5100s.

Is this shock harsh? I absolutely do not want a harsh ride (and thereby turning my vehicle into a squeaky rattle trap).

I've read some post on one of the Tacoma forums where the ride is harsh even when the shocks are left at zero (no lift).

Thoughts? Should I be looking at other shocks that approximate the stocker's ride quality?

Thanks Much!
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You're stock now? How would you describe your current ride? I'm sure you can get properly fitted for not much $$ and give you the ride you want, but of course not all setups are the same.
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I replaced mine with Bilstein 5100s several months ago. I'm a big fan, they took most of the nose dive out of it when braking and the 4R isn't as sloppy on corners anymore. Yes, the ride is firmer but it isn't harsh. It rides how a true SUV should.
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I did a lot of research and almost went the 5100 route. Instead I replaced mine with OEM for a fraction of the cost of anything else. My OEM shocks lasted a good 140,000 miles and never gave me any issues and rode fine. I figured why change unless I was really doing a lot of off roading. I do minimal, but do go off here and there. I think the OEM shocks were like $30/ea. or something ridiculous.
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There is also the Bilstein B6 4600 series as an option. I have never seen anyone mention them on this forum but I replaced the OEM dampers on an '08 Sequoia and loved how they rode. For that strictly highway vehicle, I felt 5100s were overkill. With the 4600s, the ride was slightly stiffer but not to the point that my wife noticed and turns were more precise.
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Needing some new shocks for my 2015 Trail.
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I'm curious, what is the symptom that indicates (all four?) shocks need to be replaced?

One of my rear shocks began puddling on the pavement at 35,000 miles so I replaced both rears with Bilstein 4600s. The front shocks were misting so I left them alone. 75,000 miles later, there is no dripping on the front shocks, no abnormal tire wear and I haven't noticed nose diving getting worse. The fronts show evidence of misting over the full length of the shock (dry, dusty) and yet no oil streaking. When the fronts begin puddling, become noticeably softer, or a strut mount fails, I'll install 4600s.
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I replaced mine with Bilstein 5100s several months ago. I'm a big fan, they took most of the nose dive out of it when braking and the 4R isn't as sloppy on corners anymore. Yes, the ride is firmer but it isn't harsh.


Replaced mine with 5100s the first month, slightly firmer and feeling of better control. I'm at 0.85 in front, no spacers in the rear. Photo is before adding AT tires.
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If you are going to stay at the stock height then consider the 4600's. My understanding is that they are the same as the 5100's internally just made for stock height vehicles and not adjustable (fronts).

ETA: I had the 5100's on my FJC (raised to .85") and loved the way they felt. Not harsh at all.
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Bilsteins are great shocks and struts but notorious for leaks as they age. I'd get Fox. Since new TRD PRO uses Fox now, I figured Toyota got tired of replacing leaky Bilsteins.
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You can buy the Eibach shocks without the springs too.
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Bilsteins are great shocks and struts but notorious for leaks as they age. I'd get Fox. Since new TRD PRO uses Fox now, I figured Toyota got tired of replacing leaky Bilsteins.
I've run 4600s, 5100s and Fox 2.0 on past trucks. Fox was definitely firmer. I never had issues with Bilsteins leaking.

There's another thread on this forum with people complaining about faulty Fox shocks on their 19-20 Pro's.
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You can buy the Eibach shocks without the springs too.
+1 for the Eibachs. I am running the Kit (shocks and springs both front and rear). Truck rides better than new.
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I just recently upgraded to 5100's from stock and they're great. They seem to soak up bigger potholes better, but they do feel more connected with the road/they're stiffer than stock. I much prefer them over the spongy stock shocks. Personally, I think the truck should come with these from the factory.

Mind you I came from a '17 Mazda CX5 which also has firmer suspension so maybe I'm biased. Either way they're great shocks.
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I've got the 5100's at stock height. They are not harsh at all. No real difference from stock Tokico's. As others have mentioned, suggest going with the non-adjustable billy's.
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