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Originally Posted by MAST4R
You can go to Discount Tire Direct, enter your vehicle, then choose the tire size, and then search by Treadwell. That will give you lots of independent tire testing. The ATX gets good reviews here and not so good scores on the testing. I have no idea, personally. Never ran any Generals.
Also, remember that tires play together with shocks and springs. In my experience, lighter duty shocks springs go well with SL tires and heavier duty suspension with heavy tires. My current LTE tires on a stiffer suspension actually feel better than SL on the same. I am not sure about the engineering specifics but tire weight is one part of the story.
Ha! I just put my first 300 miles on the sibling ATZ P3 and cannot have been more impressed. Offroad is obvious, but I have been shocked by how good they have been on road with my heavy duty suspension.
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I wish the Mickey's were available in the tire size I prefer. Great tires. Generals Too.
I agree with you about handling the load and heavy suspension, I think the Coopers may run smoother than the Ridge Grapplers even though they have a more aggressive and deeper tread. I don't have a lot of time on them yet, (Bout 600 miles) however dry road manners, deep snow, ice and slush are all superior to the RG's. I have a 700 mile dirt trip in New Mexico coming up with lots of highway miles on the way back. I'll update the St Maxx thread with some comparisons and observations after that.
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02-19-2020, 10:30 AM
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I wish the Mickey's were available in the tire size I prefer. Great tires. Generals Too.
I agree with you about handling the load and heavy suspension, I think the Coopers may run smoother than the Ridge Grapplers even though they have a more aggressive and deeper tread. I don't have a lot of time on them yet, (Bout 600 miles) however dry road manners, deep snow, ice and slush are all superior to the RG's. I have a 700 mile dirt trip in New Mexico coming up with lots of highway miles on the way back. I'll update the St Maxx thread with some comparisons and observations after that.
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Curious to hear your thoughts as Ill need to replace my RGs soon. Ive actually had pretty good luck with them. Very quiet, had them in the deep snow in the Sierras here, deep mud, sandstone rock etc and they alwayd had great traction. Been looking for something a little more aggressive for the next time
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02-19-2020, 04:32 PM
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Curious to hear your thoughts as Ill need to replace my RGs soon. Ive actually had pretty good luck with them. Very quiet, had them in the deep snow in the Sierras here, deep mud, sandstone rock etc and they alwayd had great traction. Been looking for something a little more aggressive for the next time
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I hit you back with a PM with some more detail. I hope that helps. I'll do a better review later when I have a bit more time on the Coopers
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02-19-2020, 06:01 PM
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I've had the grabber atx for a little over a year now, they have been fantastic in every way!
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02-19-2020, 06:36 PM
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ridge grapplers are decent tire generally. HOWEVER, if you are in snow/ice they suck ass.
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02-19-2020, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 87pony
ridge grapplers are decent tire generally. HOWEVER, if you are in snow/ice they suck ass.
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I have the Nitto Ridge Grapplers and I agree they are terrible in snow/ice. I only have 5K miles on mine anyone want to buy them lol?
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02-20-2020, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAST4R
You can go to Discount Tire Direct, enter your vehicle, then choose the tire size, and then search by Treadwell. That will give you lots of independent tire testing. The ATX gets good reviews here and not so good scores on the testing. I have no idea, personally. Never ran any Generals.
Also, remember that tires play together with shocks and springs. In my experience, lighter duty shocks springs go well with SL tires and heavier duty suspension with heavy tires. My current LTE tires on a stiffer suspension actually feel better than SL on the same. I am not sure about the engineering specifics but tire weight is one part of the story.
Ha! I just put my first 300 miles on the sibling ATZ P3 and cannot have been more impressed. Offroad is obvious, but I have been shocked by how good they have been on road with my heavy duty suspension.
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I was about to pull the trigger on 285 Nitto RidgeGrapplers for this reason, aside from the Cooper's AT3 4S they are the only other 285 size SL tire in a non-LT that runs around 45lbs each or about 20lbs less than every other General/etc option. So overall wear and tear on suspension, engine drive components and lost MPGs on top of obvious performance differences still leads me to the 116 rated SL Ridge's. Better rubber compounds, from a brand that has been doing performance tires much longer than most others.
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