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If the headlights are plug and play and not excessively priced, I’ll be picking a set up and throwing them in my 2020. I was waiting on picking up a set of the alpharex, etc. because I figured they might introduce an OEM option. I’d much rather have that, assuming performance is good
Given how expensive the TRD Pro front grill is (just plastic) and how expensive the navigation/head unit is, I fear that these LED headlights won't be a simple drop-in and they won't be inexpensive.
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So will all the HID freaks finally just install these and stop blinding everyone on the road with their shit discount Chicom Amazon light kits?
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So will all the HID freaks finally just install these and stop blinding everyone on the road with their shit discount Chicom Amazon light kits?
Nope. Most people likely won't be able to afford off the shelf OEM Toyota and will likely stick to their $25 LED drop in kits.
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Oh, great, we're stuck with the same 2021 specialty color as you Americans!

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So will all the HID freaks finally just install these and stop blinding everyone on the road with their shit discount Chicom Amazon light kits?
You already know the answer
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I’m also curious about these “updated” Fox shocks. I wonder if this has something to do with the clunking some owners were experiencing.

Also, apparently the springs add an additional inch of lift in the front? Or is that all around?

Really am interested in seeing the details about those and the headlights. They can keep the wheels; I’m happy with mine.
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Wait, what?
The whole "new" trail thing is pitching total BS, they shouldn't even call it a Trail edition, as far as the last presser I read about it, it has literally NOTHING the original Trail edition had (except a rear slider in the cargo bay oooooh aaaaah), no KDSS, no Crawl, no MTS, no rear locker, all the things that made a Trail a Trail.

They are selling based on confusing the consumer and adding a flashy color matched cooler and jenky yakima rack.
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Anyone remember when Jack Hollis was interviewed about the 2019 TRD Pro at the Chicago Auto Show? Someone asked about LED headlights, and he said something to the effect of, "No, we couldn't completely redesign the vehicle." Basically implying that using LED headlights would require a redesign. lol.

2021: Here are your 4Runner LED headlights.

My .02: looking at the headlight housing, it seems to be the same, so the logical change is just bulbs and wiring. I wonder if they changed the projector? I would assume not when the rest of the housing looks the same. Wiring can of course be a PITA, so we shall see. I have had the 4300k Philips HIDs for years on my 2016 and 2019 - AIMED DOWN - so I won't be quick to upgrade unless they're under ~$300 and well reviewed. I wonder what the color temp will be... Toyota's promo pic looks more yellow, but if they come out at like 5k to match my fogs, that could sway me.
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Was just about to decide on an order for a 2021 Highlander Platinum and saw the 2021 4Runner announcement.

Thinking about it, it’s a bit stupid (of me) that the addition of something as small as LED lighting would throw the 2021 4Runner back into consideration, but maybe it was a sign...
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I’m also curious about these “updated” Fox shocks. I wonder if this has something to do with the clunking some owners were experiencing.

Also, apparently the springs add an additional inch of lift in the front? Or is that all around?

Really am interested in seeing the details about those and the headlights. They can keep the wheels; I’m happy with mine.
It would be so nice for Toyota to admit fault on this. I'm just waiting until next fall/winter for the noises to return.

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Anyone remember when Jack Hollis was interviewed about the 2019 TRD Pro at the Chicago Auto Show? Someone asked about LED headlights, and he said something to the effect of, "No, we couldn't completely redesign the vehicle." Basically implying that using LED headlights would require a redesign. lol.

2021: Here are your 4Runner LED headlights.

My .02: looking at the headlight housing, it seems to be the same, so the logical change is just bulbs and wiring. I wonder if they changed the projector? I would assume not when the rest of the housing looks the same. Wiring can of course be a PITA, so we shall see. I have had the 4300k Philips HIDs for years on my 2016 and 2019 - AIMED DOWN - so I won't be quick to upgrade unless they're under ~$300 and well reviewed. I wonder what the color temp will be... Toyota's promo pic looks more yellow, but if they come out at like 5k to match my fogs, that could sway me.
They could change the projectors relatively easily with another side mount projector that fits the housing. Lexus had a few models and the Venza utilized side mount HIDs. After talking with a few headlight retrofitting shops, simply upgrading and tuning the lenses for an LED bulb should be all that is required if Toyota would choose to keep the same projector housing. Wiring shouldn't be too bad considering it doesn't appear to be a full housing redesign.
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It would be so nice for Toyota to admit fault on this. I'm just waiting until next fall/winter for the noises to return.



They could change the projectors relatively easily with another side mount projector that fits the housing. Lexus had a few models and the Venza utilized side mount HIDs. After talking with a few headlight retrofitting shops, simply upgrading and tuning the lenses for an LED bulb should be all that is required if Toyota would choose to keep the same projector housing. Wiring shouldn't be too bad considering it doesn't appear to be a full housing redesign.

Well what did they do on the Tacoma? That’s sort of the dress rehearsal for this. Did they completely re-design the internal housing of the LED headlights or did they just throw some bulbs in and call it a day?
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Well what did they do on the Tacoma? That’s sort of the dress rehearsal for this. Did they completely re-design the internal housing of the LED headlights or did they just throw some bulbs in and call it a day?
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How much HP does the TRD blinker add?
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How much HP does the TRD blinker add?
I read 35, but 135 if you add the TRD "not snorkel." Is that consistent with your findings?
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