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Because words that have meaning to Japanese sound stupid to Americans.
Like the Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard.
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04-01-2020, 11:06 AM
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I’d be curious to know, beyond cosmetics, what the Limited comes with that the Pro doesn’t?
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Full-time 4WD, X-REAS suspension, front & rear parking assist sonar, real leather heated AND vented front seats... just a few of the things I'm aware of.
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04-01-2020, 11:10 AM
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The Limited has Full-Time 4WD! (with lockable Torsen center diff) That is the main reason I bought a Limited.
Approach/Departure angles AND ground clearance are equal on Limited, TRD off-road, and TRD Pro.
I wish the Limited had a locking rear diff. I guess A-Trac will have to suffice.
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04-01-2020, 11:21 AM
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From the website...
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04-01-2020, 11:27 AM
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The better question is why does Toyota slap “Toyota Racing Development” on all kinds of things that have nothing to do with racing.
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The best question is why does Toyota call AWD "Full Time 4WD", and why does this confuse so many people?
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04-01-2020, 11:29 AM
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From the website...
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I'm actually surprised to see this on the website, with the lower chin spoiler, side skirts, and rear bumper I would have expected it to impact the approach/departure angles at the very least.
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04-01-2020, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveSki
I feel you really don’t want an answer, you just want to hate on Limiteds.
It’s the “luxury” trim package. IE all the fancy stuff like fulltime 4wd, push button start, dual climate control, smart door handles, up/down buttons on rear window, upgraded stereo, leather/sunroof standard, etc etc...
And to be honest, an SR5 and Limited sit at the same height and have similar clearance. Yes the Limited has some bulkier body panels... but that doesn’t prevent it from going off road. Tons of people mod Limiteds, myself included, and mine does everything a TRD Pro could do. Shit half the people on here don’t even go off-road, they just want a mall crawler that looks good.
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If this is directed at me (the op) I have a Limited and love it. I removed most of the low hanging plastic trim on front and rear and removed the side skirts, added rci gas tank skid, put spacer lift on front and have 275/70/17 KO2 tires. I off road in the desert a lot. We just got back from a trip yesterday.
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04-01-2020, 12:36 PM
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The best question is why does Toyota call AWD "Full Time 4WD", and why does this confuse so many people?
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Because it is not AWD. It is 4WD with a transfer case that allows high and low gear range with full-time 4WD and part-time 4WD.
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04-01-2020, 12:40 PM
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Because it is not AWD. It is 4WD with a transfer case that allows high and low gear range with full-time 4WD and part-time 4WD.
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The Limited just switches between full time hi-range and full time lo-range.
It's always on with a 40/60 split in H during regular driving.
Since the FJC had something similar, I have no idea why you can't get a locking rear diff with that setup.
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04-01-2020, 12:51 PM
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Because it is not AWD. It is 4WD with a transfer case that allows high and low gear range with full-time 4WD and part-time 4WD.
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The Limited is AWD, with a locking CDL (4x4), and a high/low transfer case. There is no 2WD mode unless you have a 2WD only truck (not 4x4 equipped).
You've proven my point about this being confusing to a lot of people, lol!
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Only a limited amount of people think they actually look good.
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04-01-2020, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IanB
The Limited is AWD, with a locking CDL (4x4), and a high/low transfer case. There is no 2WD mode unless you have a 2WD only truck (not 4x4 equipped).
You've proven my point about this being confusing to a lot of people, lol!
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I think we are getting into semantics. Here's how I would define...
AWD- (think Toyota Highlander) FWD bias with some way to send power to the rear wheels (no transfer case and no 4LOW).
Part time 4WD- (think 4runner TRD Off-road) 2WD only (rear wheels) until power is sent to the front from a transfer case. (4LOW is also available)
Full time 4WD- (think 4runner Limited) always 4HI (through a trasfer case) with the option to "lock" 4HI. (4LOW is also available)
I would NOT call the Limited "AWD", but again, sematics.
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04-01-2020, 01:49 PM
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I think we are getting into semantics. Here's how I would define...
AWD- (think Toyota Highlander) FWD bias with some way to send power to the rear wheels (no transfer case and no 4LOW).
Part time 4WD- (think 4runner TRD Off-road) 2WD only (rear wheels) until power is sent to the front from a transfer case. (4LOW is also available)
Full time 4WD- (think 4runner Limited) always 4HI (through a trasfer case) with the option to "lock" 4HI. (4LOW is also available)
I would NOT call the Limited "AWD", but again, sematics.
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"Full Time 4WD" is a term that exists only in Toyota marketing materials...it's AWD for Toyota's. Here's a pic of a Matrix 4WD so anyone with some spare time can explain how it's not AWD...
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'15 Lexus GX460 - FJC 6-spokes w/ 265/65/17C Duratracs Weathertech HP & Canvasback liners
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"Full Time 4WD" is a term that exists only in Toyota marketing materials...it's AWD for Toyota's. Here's a pic of a Matrix 4WD so anyone with some spare time can explain how it's not AWD...
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They used to put it on the ass end of the 80 series, too.
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They used to put it on the ass end of the 80 series, too.
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Just the full time AWD versions though!
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'04 Lexus GX470 Ultra Premium - Dobinsons 2F/1R lift, Tandem 612's w/ 265/70/17 Wildpeaks, XD HID lows
'15 Lexus GX460 - FJC 6-spokes w/ 265/65/17C Duratracs Weathertech HP & Canvasback liners
'15 4Runner Limited - 1" Cornfed level, 255/75/17SL Duratracs on FJC 8-holes, XD HID lows, Sprint Booster, Canvasbacks & Husky Liners - SOLD
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