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Old 04-03-2020, 02:36 PM #16
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This is my biggest pet peeve about the 5th gen. I owned 2 x 4th gens and got very used to removing the filter at the top of the engine bay and simply screwing on the new one. I bought an RCI skid just so I can unscrew the door to make oil changes easier. I did have bad experiences with the "Toyota doesn't care" service so I will never be going back. Otherwise I love my truck so it is what it is
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First of all Nuke you are correct, itís a PIA! For the rest of you excuse makers, a crappy design is what it is! An aftermarket skid plate at your cost is not an answer to an engineering design flaw!
Subaru as an example, put the oil filter topside of the engine, easily accessible and replaced. Same with my Ford truck.
Iím not exactly sure why these excuses for design flaws keep coming up other than an inability to deal with reality, I.e. truth. Or maybe itís shrunken nuts.
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First of all Nuke you are correct, itís a PIA! For the rest of you excuse makers, a crappy design is what it is! An aftermarket skid plate at your cost is not an answer to an engineering design flaw!
Subaru as an example, put the oil filter topside of the engine, easily accessible and replaced. Same with my Ford truck.
Iím not exactly sure why these excuses for design flaws keep coming up other than an inability to deal with reality, I.e. truth. Or maybe itís shrunken nuts.
I think it's just that the engine is designed to fit in a certain area, and that's all the parameters...seen it in several other vehicles on other forums, oil changes are a pain due to filter placement, clearance, or the required removal of parts prior to gaining access.

I must say that even though removing the skid plate first isn't the best plan, that access is SUPER easy once it is removed.
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First of all Nuke you are correct, itís a PIA! For the rest of you excuse makers, a crappy design is what it is! An aftermarket skid plate at your cost is not an answer to an engineering design flaw!
Subaru as an example, put the oil filter topside of the engine, easily accessible and replaced. Same with my Ford truck.
Iím not exactly sure why these excuses for design flaws keep coming up other than an inability to deal with reality, I.e. truth. Or maybe itís shrunken nuts.
Ok...maybe not a design "flaw", but it is badly located, and for a cartridge filter housing, insanely over engineered. Your Subaru example is perfect or look under the hood of a Mercedes V12. Cartridge filter in the "V" right on top. less than a minute to replace.
What we need is a 90 degree spin on adapter to replace the multi piece/step cartridge housing....
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I've done about 5 oil changes now on my runner... i HATED it the first couple times... but you get used to it and learn all the tips and tricks from experience. It's no big deal now. I don't mind it.
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RCI skid plates are your friend for changing your own oil. Combined with a no-spill drain plug, you can complete the job in about 30 minutes without spilling a drop of oil - makes oil changes a breeze!

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Toyota 2.0L - 5.7L Oil Filter Wrench, Drain Tool, and Funnel Bundle - Motivx Tools
That's a pretty cool kit. Since I already have the housing wrench and I use a soft drink bottle to push the plastic thingy into the housing which catches the oil from the housing all I'd really need is the screw in funnel which looks very handy. They sell it separately for $17 Engine Oil Funnel for Toyota, Lexus, and Scion Vehicles with Threaded - Motivx Tools
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That's a pretty cool kit. Since I already have the housing wrench and I use a soft drink bottle to push the plastic thingy into the housing which catches the oil from the housing all I'd really need is the screw in funnel which looks very handy. They sell it separately for $17 Engine Oil Funnel for Toyota, Lexus, and Scion Vehicles with Threaded - Motivx Tools
DIY Engine oil funnel: If you use quart bottles of Mobil 1 oil, cut just the bottom off of an empty bottle so that the bottle forms a "funnel" and screw the threaded top of the bottle (where cap was) into oil filler neck on the engine. Threads are a perfect fit, you can reuse the homemade funnel and it doesn't cost $17.

I do not know if other oil brand bottles have the same size neck as Mobil 1, but this works well for me.

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Yeah, the whole Toyota oil change thing is another of the few reasons I miss my '20 Rubicon. It's filter was super easy to get to and the oil change could be done in 15-20 minutes with zero mess. But with the 4Runner, I just plan on setting aside an hour of "me time" and go out there and get it done. I enjoy wrenching on vehicles so the extra time is not a problem. The mess on the other hand is rather annoying. Toyota makes a great vehicle but they should also learn to make them more likable in terms of maintenance and up-to-date technology.
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Yeah, I just did my first oil change as well. Whoever did it last must have really torqued the filter housing on. The bottom nut was on so tight it was spinning the whole housing and wouldnít come off. Thought I would break something so I a hit it with my impact and it came right off. Then had to muscle the filter housing off with my hands. Just about killed me.

Ordered the filter housing wrench now...

My wifeís VW is much easier to change the oil on. Filter is front and center in the engine bay, drains itself as you remove it. No skid plate removal to drain either.


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