04-06-2020, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LandCruiser
Lay off the gas.
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This is the temporary solution.
As the others have said, Bay Area roads are probably still oil slick from low rainfall this season, and your tires are not great.
Until you get new tires you gotta drive as if you’re on ice.
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04-06-2020, 06:02 PM
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Somewhat related, I'm just surprised how above average my new KO2's are on the waterlogged streets this time of year.
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04-06-2020, 06:07 PM
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First thing I would do is check tire pressures!
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04-06-2020, 06:14 PM
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Somewhat related, I'm just surprised how above average my new KO2's are on the waterlogged streets this time of year.
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This is great to read while I stand here waiting for my 275 KO2s to be mounted. Would have felt like arse if I compromised the wife’s DD safety for trail performance.
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04-06-2020, 07:00 PM
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how long have you had your truck? you haven't noticed this until 4 yrs later assuming you got the truck new?
i also live in the bay area, but i have 4 mo old ridge grapplers. i had no issues driving in the rain this past saturday.
i'm guessing with these bigger storms, you'll need more then double head of a quarter.
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Hi All
Saturday we had some very heavy rain in the Bay Area. Multiple times during the day I the back end of my vehicle sliding/fishtailing when making normal left or right corner turn. It even occurs when I stop first and then make a turn. The first time it happened I was coming off a freeway ramp while turning left on a bend. I almost lost control and I wasn’t going that fast. Obviously this has me very concerned. I never expected to have the problem with my 2016 4Runner TRD pro. The last time I experienced this problem is when I had a R-X7.
So let me give you more info.
I’m running Nitto Terra Graplers on a 17 inch rim. The tires are a little worn but still has decent thread depth. Way more that the head of a quarter. It happens on about 20% of the turns. Even after stopping before a turn. This is the first time I experienced this when it was raining. I did noticed the Slip Traction activating. I could feel the brakes pulsing. Also a couple of times I believe I felt the rear wheels slip when accelerating after being at a complete stop at a red light.
My only guess at this point is that I may have problems with the tires or the 4Runner has a heavy rear end.
Has anyone else had problems with their 4Runner doing this. Any help to resolve this problem would be appreciated.
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04-06-2020, 10:51 PM
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Somewhat related, I'm just surprised how above average my new KO2's are on the waterlogged streets this time of year.
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New, they are great in the rain. Once they get about half worn they will start slipping and sliding too. Every set of KO2s I've ran started losing the wet traction at about 25-30k miles. They're great tires but the wet traction does go away.
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04-06-2020, 11:19 PM
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Any help to resolve this problem would be appreciated.
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Too much powah! Problem solved. Have a you considered detuning the mighty beast?
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04-07-2020, 12:02 AM
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Whatever you do don’t buy KO2 to solve this problem. I like many others had to get rid of KO2 just because of the dangerous liability of poor wet traction.
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04-07-2020, 06:40 AM
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Pick up some Wildpeak AT3s SL. Best tire I’ve ever had in the rain, and I’ve ran a lot.
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Third vote.
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04-07-2020, 10:07 AM
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Pick up some Wildpeak AT3s SL. Best tire I’ve ever had in the rain, and I’ve ran a lot.
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Fourth vote, had the same issue with Nittos and less than 3k miles on them.
Switched to Wildpeak AT3s SL... amazing!
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04-07-2020, 10:57 AM
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Fourth vote, had the same issue with Nittos and less than 3k miles on them.
Switched to Wildpeak AT3s SL... amazing!
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Please allow me to be the fifth to recommend Wildpeaks. Thank you.
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04-07-2020, 01:08 PM
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New, they are great in the rain. Once they get about half worn they will start slipping and sliding too. Every set of KO2s I've ran started losing the wet traction at about 25-30k miles. They're great tires but the wet traction does go away.
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That's about right. My Firestone Destination MTs were oddly great in the rain, which makes no sense looking at them, but they started to separate BADLY long before they wore out.
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04-07-2020, 01:29 PM
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At least they're not Duratracs. I managed 3rd gear one tire fire with those on my Tacoma before the supercharger.
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04-08-2020, 05:27 PM
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As tires age they get harder. The volatiles in the rubber which makes them soft evaporates. Each manufacturer/tire model has a different rubber compounds based on expected performance of the tire. If your rubber is more than 4/5 years old, I would consider replacement if you are worried about traction. If not lay off the gas. Tread design also matters for wet traction. I replace my motorcycle tires every 3 years regardless of tread thickness or sooner based on tread thickness. You must have sticky tires on a motorcycle. Sticky tires don't last long. Hard tire last longer, and don't grip as well. As its been said you can not have everything in a tire. You need to pick what performance is important for you. I have KO2's on my 4runner and have not had a problem. It rains a lot in Louisiana
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04-08-2020, 09:35 PM
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Wasn’t speeding. Normal driving.
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