11-04-2020, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TodiN
Looks you have quite a rear sag... What rear springs do you have?
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It does look that way in the photo not sure why, I have the medium springs front and rear. Without the trailer it has a slight rake to it but levels out with the trailer.
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11-04-2020, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bundutrailer
Anyone used stock springs with the foamcells?
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I am not sure the front stock springs would work :-/
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11-05-2020, 08:16 AM
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11-20-2020, 09:51 AM
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I’m trying to decide between the nitro gas and foam cell. I mostly drive on road a few off-road trips a year. Anyone have any reason not to go with the nitro gas?
Also the 3” is sold out on nitro gas but not on the foam cell. I knew awhile back someone had a code that would apply 15% off to the sale price, that might be enough to make me go with foam cell over nitro gas, does anyone have a working code right now?
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11-20-2020, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt_in_MI
I’m trying to decide between the nitro gas and foam cell. I mostly drive on road a few off-road trips a year. Anyone have any reason not to go with the nitro gas?
Also the 3” is sold out on nitro gas but not on the foam cell. I knew awhile back someone had a code that would apply 15% off to the sale price, that might be enough to make me go with foam cell over nitro gas, does anyone have a working code right now?
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on the same boat!
FC stage 2 vs Dobinson vs toytec
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11-21-2020, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt_in_MI
I’m trying to decide between the nitro gas and foam cell. I mostly drive on road a few off-road trips a year. Anyone have any reason not to go with the nitro gas?
Also the 3” is sold out on nitro gas but not on the foam cell. I knew awhile back someone had a code that would apply 15% off to the sale price, that might be enough to make me go with foam cell over nitro gas, does anyone have a working code right now?
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Both codes I had no longer work. Might be able to message them on their messages thing on their site. They might give you one.
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1996 T4R Limited: E-Locked l 285 KO2's l Toytec BOSS w Superflex l SS Panhard l Ultra Gauge l AIRAID MIT l Drifter CB Mount l AOF Sliders l Weathertech's l Hilux 167 Snorke l Cobra 19DXIV l Ditch Lights l Relentless Front Bumper l Superwinch Tiger Shark l Paranoid Fab Din Switch
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11-25-2020, 06:20 AM
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Here’s the lift with my new tires. Went with 285/70r17 ridge grapplers. Stock wheels no spacers. FCP stage 2 with performance load all around. 3 in. in the front 2in. for the rear. Seems I have a little negative rake so I might need to adjust the front down a bit.
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11-25-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt_in_MI
I’m trying to decide between the nitro gas and foam cell. I mostly drive on road a few off-road trips a year. Anyone have any reason not to go with the nitro gas?
Also the 3” is sold out on nitro gas but not on the foam cell. I knew awhile back someone had a code that would apply 15% off to the sale price, that might be enough to make me go with foam cell over nitro gas, does anyone have a working code right now?
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Call and talk to the guys or one gal that work there. I ended up going nitro gas on their recommendation because I drive much like you do. I got the stage 3 kit with nitro shocks and have beed very pleased. Wife even commented on how much better it rides and handles.
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11-25-2020, 10:51 AM
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Ordered my Stage 3 Foam setup yesterday. Can't wait to get it installed and see how it performs. I've got a Fox Stage 3 setup on our 2018 so it'll allow me to do some side by side.
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11-25-2020, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ragin_cajun
Ordered my Stage 3 Foam setup yesterday. Can't wait to get it installed and see how it performs. I've got a Fox Stage 3 setup on our 2018 so it'll allow me to do some side by side.
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I am definitely interested in hearing what you think. We drove my FCP against my buddies Dobinson IMS and they rode very similar.
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12-02-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RedRunner_87
I am definitely interested in hearing what you think. We drove my FCP against my buddies Dobinson IMS and they rode very similar.
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These are the two systems I am looking at.
I currently have OME 3" but it seems thing have sagged a bit... you know after adding hundreds of pounds of metal to it.
For those of you have have bought them, what loads do you carry vs what load the springs say they are rated for? My OME rides a lot better with the weight on it but most of the lift is gone. I've gone through comparing spring rates from OME, Ironman, and Dobinsons and they are all over the place.
The more research I do the less I know what I want. When springs say they are rated to carry an extra 200lbs, is that for the axle or for the whole vehicle? Most of the weight of the skids lies between the axles so??? I have a C4 bumper and a bunch of $#!+ in the back but the front is fairly stock except skid plates. I'm having a hard time deciding what springs to go with.
What is the difference between performance load and constant load when they say they have the same weight rating?
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12-02-2020, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRunner_87
I am definitely interested in hearing what you think. We drove my FCP against my buddies Dobinson IMS and they rode very similar.
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Large shipment came in yesterday. Everything is accounted for, going to start the install this weekend.
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12-02-2020, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy K
These are the two systems I am looking at.
I currently have OME 3" but it seems thing have sagged a bit... you know after adding hundreds of pounds of metal to it.
For those of you have have bought them, what loads do you carry vs what load the springs say they are rated for? My OME rides a lot better with the weight on it but most of the lift is gone. I've gone through comparing spring rates from OME, Ironman, and Dobinsons and they are all over the place.
The more research I do the less I know what I want. When springs say they are rated to carry an extra 200lbs, is that for the axle or for the whole vehicle? Most of the weight of the skids lies between the axles so??? I have a C4 bumper and a bunch of $#!+ in the back but the front is fairly stock except skid plates. I'm having a hard time deciding what springs to go with.
What is the difference between performance load and constant load when they say they have the same weight rating?
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I have the Performance Springs all the way around. They are rated 0-110lbs up front and I am carrying no extra weight(I am actually probably slightly lighter since I did the high clearance cut). The rear performance springs are rated for 0-660lbs and I have a drawer/sleep platform in the rear of mine at all times. I estimate that it probably weights 200lbs give or take with my tools and recovery equipment in it. I love the way it drives, I cannot comment on the rear is without weight since I had the drawers in it before I put the lift on.
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1996 T4R Limited: E-Locked l 285 KO2's l Toytec BOSS w Superflex l SS Panhard l Ultra Gauge l AIRAID MIT l Drifter CB Mount l AOF Sliders l Weathertech's l Hilux 167 Snorke l Cobra 19DXIV l Ditch Lights l Relentless Front Bumper l Superwinch Tiger Shark l Paranoid Fab Din Switch
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12-02-2020, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ragin_cajun
Large shipment came in yesterday. Everything is accounted for, going to start the install this weekend.
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Awesome! Anxiously waiting for your verdict!
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1996 T4R Limited: E-Locked l 285 KO2's l Toytec BOSS w Superflex l SS Panhard l Ultra Gauge l AIRAID MIT l Drifter CB Mount l AOF Sliders l Weathertech's l Hilux 167 Snorke l Cobra 19DXIV l Ditch Lights l Relentless Front Bumper l Superwinch Tiger Shark l Paranoid Fab Din Switch
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12-03-2020, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RedRunner_87
I have the Performance Springs all the way around. They are rated 0-110lbs up front and I am carrying no extra weight(I am actually probably slightly lighter since I did the high clearance cut). The rear performance springs are rated for 0-660lbs and I have a drawer/sleep platform in the rear of mine at all times. I estimate that it probably weights 200lbs give or take with my tools and recovery equipment in it. I love the way it drives, I cannot comment on the rear is without weight since I had the drawers in it before I put the lift on.
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I started adding up what I had, using just the mfr website weights it was 455# which does not include my leveling platform molle panels and all the stuff so I'd say another 100#. The rear bumper weight may or may not include the spare tire mount and I'm not sure the difference between the stock spare wheel/tire and full size E-rated spare. Suffice it to say at trail ready load I'm probably well into the 600 pound range. The weight adds up crazy fast. I leave my hi-lift and spare fuel off for my daily commutes.
I may have to chat with some of the reps to see what I really need. "Need" lol it's not like what I have doesn't work, it just could be better.
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