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Old 04-30-2020, 12:25 PM #16
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I went from Dobinsons 701v to OME 899 to Dobinsons 749v.

With all the weight I carry I was finding the 701ís a little soft. The 899ís were great but I missed the down travel variable coils gave me. Attempted to mediate this with some poly spacers, but ended up going 749v when they came out and love them. I have a hybrid extended travel shock with 2Ē bump stop extensions and rarely bottom out.

I still prefer the predictability of a linear coil like the OME for on-road, but off-road you cant beat the travel of a variable rate.

The Dobinsons will ride tall when unloaded, where as a linear coil will just ride firmer (little tall, but within range). What this means is you may need to look at other components depending on your specific setup, like rear control arms to correct your pinion angle, longer sway bar links, etc, depending on typical ride height.

I admittedly went pretty tall with my build, probably running the 749vís on the lighter side, but when loaded up for a trip itís nice and level, which is how I like it.

For what itís worth, I sold my 899ís to a buddy with no rear bumper, just a drawer system and fridge, and he doesnít think theyíre too stiff. Your results may vary.

This is a great set of examples. Thanks for providing it.

My experiences with the Dobinson's variable rate coils (677v & 701v) is very similar to yours although I've never run the OME's. The Dobinson's coils do stand a bit tall unloaded but not negatively so.
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I know Dobinson has come out with some heavier variable coils but at the time the heaviest option didn't seem enough. I had a guy I know on them who had a similar setup as me and he was sagging. The newer options may be better.

I'll have to look more into the OME coils. Although I'm pretty happy with my current setup. Thanks
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I went from Dobinsons 701v to OME 899 to Dobinsons 749v.

With all the weight I carry I was finding the 701ís a little soft. The 899ís were great but I missed the down travel variable coils gave me. Attempted to mediate this with some poly spacers, but ended up going 749v when they came out and love them. I have a hybrid extended travel shock with 2Ē bump stop extensions and rarely bottom out.

I still prefer the predictability of a linear coil like the OME for on-road, but off-road you cant beat the travel of a variable rate.

The Dobinsons will ride tall when unloaded, where as a linear coil will just ride firmer (little tall, but within range). What this means is you may need to look at other components depending on your specific setup, like rear control arms to correct your pinion angle, longer sway bar links, etc, depending on typical ride height.

I admittedly went pretty tall with my build, probably running the 749vís on the lighter side, but when loaded up for a trip itís nice and level, which is how I like it.

For what itís worth, I sold my 899ís to a buddy with no rear bumper, just a drawer system and fridge, and he doesnít think theyíre too stiff. Your results may vary.
The dobinson 749v how much lift are you??? I'm looking to replace my 3" icon Overland springs. As even now I just have a hitch tire carrier and it's already sagging w/ my 3rd row... I would like to maintain a 3" which is level with my 4.5" in the front
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The dobinson 749v how much lift are you??? I'm looking to replace my 3" icon Overland springs. As even now I just have a hitch tire carrier and it's already sagging w/ my 3rd row... I would like to maintain a 3" which is level with my 4.5" in the front

I'm still running the Icon Overland 3'' springs with a 15mm Dobinson's spacer on top of the Icon springs. Currently I have about .75'' of rake when unloaded.....but it decreases quick when loaded down, and I want to maintain about a 1'' rake when fully loaded.

I currently have the 701V's and the OME 899's in the garage that have never been installed.

I've been thinking about going straight to the 749V's, or maybe trying the OME 899's w/ the same 15mm spacers, if needed, to get the height I want in the rear.....Interested to see what you end up doing, as well as any further info from @JSparky ..
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I'm still running the Icon Overland 3'' springs with a 15mm Dobinson's spacer on top of the Icon springs. Currently I have about .75'' of rake when unloaded.....but it decreases quick when loaded down, and I want to maintain about a 1'' rake when fully loaded.

I currently have the 701V's and the OME 899's in the garage that have never been installed.

I've been thinking about going straight to the 749V's, or maybe trying the OME 899's w/ the same 15mm spacers, if needed, to get the height I want in the rear.....Interested to see what you end up doing, as well as any further info from @JSparky ..
I weight my 4runner without new front skids tire carrier w/ the stuff on it and pumpkin skid. I was 5660lbs

So currently I have just a tire carrier (80lbs) w/ a 35" spare( 86lbs), a hi lift, traction boards, and a 3rd row... I'm going to go tomorrow to weight again at the truck scale.

And as of right now... my 4runner has a small squatted stance. And I have 3" Overland springs. I'm afraid that with the rear bumper comes it'll squat even more. This will be furtherly worsen by having 6 passengers and all our camping gear.
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I weight my 4runner without new front skids tire carrier w/ the stuff on it and pumpkin skid. I was 5660lbs

So currently I have just a tire carrier (80lbs) w/ a 35" spare( 86lbs), a hi lift, traction boards, and a 3rd row... I'm going to go tomorrow to weight again at the truck scale.

And as of right now... my 4runner has a small squatted stance. And I have 3" Overland springs. I'm afraid that with the rear bumper comes it'll squat even more. This will be furtherly worsen by having 6 passengers and all our camping gear.

I think the 749v would be too stiff for that weight. I have about 425# over stock behind my rear axle and run the 701v and it's just a bit too stiff, about 3.25". I have some drawers on the way that should correct it. It rides fine just too tall for what I want. Loaded up it's fantastic.
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The dobinson 749v how much lift are you??? I'm looking to replace my 3" icon Overland springs. As even now I just have a hitch tire carrier and it's already sagging w/ my 3rd row... I would like to maintain a 3" which is level with my 4.5" in the front
I can get back to you later today, Iím honestly not sure.

Anyone know of a free vehicle scale in the Bay Area?
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The dobinson 749v how much lift are you??? I'm looking to replace my 3" icon Overland springs. As even now I just have a hitch tire carrier and it's already sagging w/ my 3rd row... I would like to maintain a 3" which is level with my 4.5" in the front
Just measured, from the asphalt to the bottom of the rear fender flare Iím at 41.5Ē and 41.75Ē, respectively. Thatís with 315/70r17ís (saw you have the same tire size). I can measure from the center of the hub when I can get an extra pair of hands.

Thatís unloaded, which for me means rear bumper plus full size spare, Autohome Columbus rtt, empty fridge and full tool box.

Iíll have to update my build thread with current stats.
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