I do agree that life is precious and we should enable those that want to live, should get that opportunity. Also true, it might save lives someday and some of the safety improvements are very good (seat belts).

However, I will respectfully disagree that it needs to work better. This feature is just not baked enough to say it won't take a life as well. Just read the "Limitations of the pre-collision system" on pg 255.

Look at this jewel from the owner's manual.
It is has non-deterministic behavior, and that is bad when it comes to saving lives.

Elevator controls have deterministic behavior. This disclaimer would make me take the stairs.
This elevator may not employ the rapid decent inhibitor if two or more floors below the current position are selected.

When air bags came out they were the greatest things since wheel and they have killed and still kill children. Also killed people because they thought they didn't need seat belts.

The warning was prophetic: 242 deaths — many of them children or small women — are blamed on air bags. Deaths peaked in 1997, when 53 people — including 31 children — were killed.

It is now 25+ years later and the number of deaths has greatly reduced; however, injuries are still common and we still had a massive airbag recall after all these years.

What I'm saying is it takes time to work it out. Personally I don't want to be part of the beta testing in my car or other cars around me.

BTW the owner's manual says that if you mash the gas it will override the PCS. So if you really want to run over the ped you can, good to know that it's fool proof.

Good point. I don't know. It made sense at the time.

Moving along...

Hey, it's all good man. I do happen to be a kid of the 80's so that's why I asked.

Word is the next gen 4Runner will be based on the same platform as the next Tundra so it will get bigger....and more complex. I would rather the 4Runner be a Truck like the FJ than devolve into a bigger Highlander. At least it looks like it will be BOF and that's a good thing. Turbo V-6 will be the likely power plant....no V-8's There is talk of the LandCruiser reverting back into a Off-Road worthy Truck and letting a different model be the over priced Land Yacht! Toyota are moving Tacoma production to Mexico......I hope 4Runner remains a Tahara built vehicle, or I won't be buying Toyota.

Sounds like you need a Jeep...

I have a 06 Rubi Unlimited 6 speed with 40K.......it 'aint a Toyota!

agreed. i have 2010, 2019, and now 2020 in the family. the 2020 stuff really works well. super easy to turn off with a click of a couple of menu options. i don't get why people are mad about toyota putting it. on one hand there area ton of complains about 4R missing all the tech until 2019, and on the other hand there are haters for the 2020. Buy what you like is of course free to make

sixseasonsandamovie!!!

I agree with you 100%, it's frustrating they didn't do something with the radar. the bumper choices are very limited for us. I got the C4 Lo-Pro with the tall bull bar, it's supposed to be TSS safe.

80s is millennial 😉
Sorry, couldn’t resist. I teach a generation collaboration in the workforce consulting class (I need to work on the name).
Who you have to look out for are these Gen Z (mid-90s).

Agree, Tesla has set a new standard in tech integrated into vehicles. More interested in the body change for 6th Gen.

Geez you guys are making me sound like an old guy.

There are problems with mandated progress. Evey $100 to the cost of the manufacturing comes out 3-4 times that in the price. So the $100 mandated back up camera costs you a bunch more. Until it breaks, then you get to pay 5-6x the cost fir repairs.

The increased cost prohibits the poor from buying reliable cars. A decent new car for a single mother is going to be $20K. With the US median income of about $40K, it makes for a pretty tight budget. They can get a used car and worry about it breaking in the summer heat with the babies in the car.

I blame it on the politicians. They all want their name on a bill and they will sign anything that says "public safety".

Also there are times when the science or manufacturing doesn't exist. Check out microstamping. It is now mandated and one person/company holds the patent, and it's virtually impossible to implement, while (if it worked) it's very easy to override. The politicians simply don't care about your or I.

The solution is education of drivers and peds . This has become obsolete. When I was a kid we were taught to not play in front of moving cars and we didn't need that stuff.

Sure a kid got whacked once in a while, but it was learning moment for everyone.

I don't disagree with you about things driving up costs, and politics being involved.

The average price of a new car is $37,851 (this is for light cars... normal people drive those). The Nissan Versa at just over $15k is the least expensive new car on the market today. People aren't buying those, if we simply look at the average transaction price it's fairly obvious. I don't remember what my point was here, but let's pretend there was one. Sweet.

All that aside, we aren't going backwards. Sure, people should learn to drive (and pay attention to things around them while doing other things such as walking), however we find out time and time again that isn't happening. That leads to laws designed to protect them. That in turn leads to people screaming about nanny states and such. It's a vicious cycle, really.

It still seems the 4Runner has some of the least tech available on a modern vehicle. They also aren't cheap. Hell, they start at just over $36k for a 2020 model.

As people get worse at driving more safety tech will be added and the price will continue to creep up.

There is also the issue of the tech in your hand causing some massive distractions. As a motorcycle rider I might be hyper sensitive to this, but the number of people I see staring at their crotches (bro, we all know that smile isn't due to the size of your... :ahem:... unit) has increased over the last few years, and got worse when the handheld laws were put in place. People are so concerned with their latest SMS, the newest Twitstagrambook post, and everything else going on that they :valley girl voice here: "literally can't even" when it comes to driving.

Fix the people if you want to stop the tech creep. At least the safety stuff. You aren't going to be able to stop the convenience and self driving stuff.

Alright, let's get back to whatever we were doing. If you read that whole mass of garbage, thank you. It was horribly written, patchy in it's flow, and quite honestly driven by a complete lack of caffeine today.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

Glad someone caught that.

Still waiting on the movie part. Did you hear the cast is reuniting for a live table read? That's pretty swell. Danny Glove is even coming back for it.

I was born in the 70s (hey, six months still counts!). I'm that weird in-between generation.

Let me clarify - I'm a kid of the 80's, born in 68.

My '20 Rubicon had lane departure assist (I turned it off), blind spot (no noise, just mirror light) and cross path detection, both which were great, auto headlights at least in the sense they turned on in rain or dark and were LEDs all around so you could actually see down the road, rear parking assist (beeper based on distance from object). The cross path detection was great because if someone in an F-1150 bro-dozer parked beside you blocking the view, as you started backing out, it would detect approaching vehicles in both directions at least 50' away. The back-up camera was HD and you could see every detail, plus it had the curves that moved based on steering angle. Again, all of the tech on the Jeep was way better than Toyota as far as execution, driver interface and intuitiveness. But it was still a Jeep and I kept seeing others' JLs fall apart.

Re turning off the radar cruise...I have a 2019 Tundra with that radar cruise and it can be set to regular cruise control. Might be similar with T4R? When you go to engage cruise hold that button in for 3 seconds and you'll see an icon like an odometer. Once you are there you depress the stalk and sets the speed.