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Old 05-29-2020, 10:35 AM #16
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I have Tundra and Trd 4 runner and they both are great vehicles. I would NEVER let anyone up here who is 4 runner bias tell you what you should get. The Tundra will last you a life time. That 5.7 v8 is a million mile motor built better than our 4 runner motors. The power in a tundra is much greater than the 4 runner but the mpg suck. Drive the 4 runner and drive the Tundra and you will find that the 4 runner is smoother and handles better. If you are a Truck guy and not a SUV guy you will go Tundra. Once you add a lift, tires and rims you will fit right in with the Truck culture in Alaska. If I had to choose my Tundra or my 4 runner, the 4 runner would be gone. Can't replace a big v8 10000 lb towing Truck with a mid size SUV...lol

Both those million mile Tundras were driven by Hot Shot delivery drivers who worked for the oil industry, which means they needed the truck bed space for oil drums and such and was mostly driven highway miles. If a 4Runner was able to haul the same load as they were carrying, Iím sure it would have been more than capable of achieving the million mile mark.
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Good call on what my hobbies will be. So far just hiking, camping, snowboarding. I want to get into fishing and hunting tho.
If you get into fishing and hunting, you will wish you had a truck. But if your dream car is a 4runner, maybe get a 4runner and an old beater truck for hunting/fishing?

My vote is... BOTH! Get a good used 4runner for $30,000 and buy a decent older truck for $15,000. (That's what I would do.)
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Both those million mile Tundras were driven by Hot Shot delivery drivers who worked for the oil industry, which means they needed the truck bed space for oil drums and such and was mostly driven highway miles. If a 4Runner was able to haul the same load as they were carrying, Iím sure it would have been more than capable of achieving the million mile mark.
Look no matter how much you love that 4 runner it ain't built like a Tundra, period. The v8 5.7 and the transmission is built to last when you are doing truck stuff it has to be. My 08 Tundra tows my 10000 lb toyhauler now like it did when it had 0 miles. It has not lost 1 step even when the hills get big and it runs up to 3500 rpms it still pull that trailer 75 mph with zero issues. I had a leaking water pump for 2 years before I fixed it and that is all the fixes that it has. My 96 3rd 4 runner might have the best built motor and transmission in a 4 runner. At 321,000 miles it could reach a million miles on the same transmission and motor. The difference is I know the Tundra will because Toyota over built it because of what you ask a truck to do.
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What problems are 4Runner engines prone to that 5.7 V8s are not? Maybe I've missed a bunch of complaints?
The 4.0 in a 4 runner just like the 3.4 in a 3rd gen do like to blow head gaskets when the miles get up over 200k. Is that an issue for most? Most people don't have their 4th gens that long and very few 5th gen have been around long enough to comment. I've lost head gasket on both 3rd gen (at 300k) and 4th gen (At 270k) which was great for a 25 year old vehicle. My buddies who use their 5.7 tundras for work n play are over 500 and 600k. Trucks tow for work and for play yet they keep going with no motor or transmission issues. There have been 5.7 motor failures and toyota at times have taken them back to look at the issue because even they were surprised. A 5.7 tundra motor failure is an unusual event for Toyota.
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Look no matter how much you love that 4 runner it ain't built like a Tundra, period. The v8 5.7 and the transmission is built to last when you are doing truck stuff it has to be. My 08 Tundra tows my 10000 lb toyhauler now like it did when it had 0 miles. It has not lost 1 step even when the hills get big and it runs up to 3500 rpms it still pull that trailer 75 mph with zero issues. I had a leaking water pump for 2 years before I fixed it and that is all the fixes that it has. My 96 3rd 4 runner might have the best built motor and transmission in a 4 runner. At 321,000 miles it could reach a million miles on the same transmission and motor. The difference is I know the Tundra will because Toyota over built it because of what you ask a truck to do.
I never said the 4Runner is built the same way as the Tundra. I said the 4Runner 6cyl engine is just as capable of doing million miles.

So what is your point again?
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I can speak for both as I have owned both. A 2015 Tundra DoubleCab with 6.5ft bed and a 2015 4Runner TRDP.

The reason I switched from the Tundra to a T4R at first was simply the size. The Tundra was always parked outside as it would not fit in my garage. 365 year round weather beating on it 24/7. Weather beating takes a toll on a vehicle. Paint oxidation, rubber seal, weather stripping deteriorate, rust issues, Etc.

Parking in tight spots was somewhat a chore. Just maneuvering in these crowded parking lots irritated me. As I mentioned in another thread, my Tundra got door dinged twice leaving very noticeable dents on my doors as it was so wide the idiots parked next to me didnít have much space to get in their car they pushed their door edge onto mine.

For me, the seat was very uncomfortable. I needed a seat cushion for my ass. I have never needed a seat cushion for any of the numerous vehicles I have driven. YMMV.

Donít get me wrong, the Tundra with its 6.5ft bed was great when I needed to tow and haul large and long stuff. And the V8 power along with the BA Performance Muffler was nice too. But how often will you tow and haul stuff? You have to ask yourself this question. Yes you can load up a T4R with stuff but would you want to drop soil, rocks, bricks, wood, etc. in the back?

As for the MPGs, Iím getting the same with my T4R after lifting it and slapping on 285/70/17 M/T tires. I average 14.5 to 15.5mpgs on both rigs. So this another YMMV subject.


So in short, get a Tundra if you need the towing capacity, truck bed, cabin room and V8 power. If you can do without those 4 things then a 5th gen T4R would be wise choice.
Agreed, it seems most never consider the harshness of their enviroment when parking a vehicle outside all year long. Although, the offroad variants on this forum probably are less concerned about that aspect. I also went with a Tacoma due to size and fit in my garage but that was 15 years ago. Everyone's situation is different but my goal is to pair a trailer with my future 4R purchase to make up for the loss of a bed. Good luck either way with your decision.
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Biggest difference is size and power.

The Tundra is a beast of a workhorse.

4runner is a fun toy in comparison.

I've driven my parent's Tundra multiple times including towing a boat a couple hundred miles.
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Im sure it isn't the most convenient option but there is a Toyota in Whitehorse, Yukon. About a 12 hour drive from Anchorage and looks like they have a 2020 TRD for 54K CDN (as of the rate right now is 40K USD) and am almost positive Yukon only has GST (5%) and no provincial tax.

2020 Toyota 4Runner for sale in Whitehorse, YT serving North West Territories | New Toyota Sales
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I never said the 4Runner is built the same way as the Tundra. I said the 4Runner 6cyl engine is just as capable of doing million miles.

So what is your point again?
That 4.0 and 3.4 motor tends to need to have motor or transmission fixes on the norm before 500k miles. Hey but until there are a few million mile 4 runner that got there without any issues on the motor or transmission you can continue your wishful (my neighbor does the same about his 5.4 ford 150) thinking about it being capable of getting there.
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That 4.0 and 3.4 motor tends to need to have motor or transmission fixes on the norm before 500k miles. Hey but until there are a few million mile 4 runner that got there without any issues on the motor or transmission you can continue your wishful (my neighbor does the same about his 5.4 ford 150) thinking about it being capable of getting there.
If you want to get technical show me proof of a Tundra with a 5.7L engine that has a million original miles. You didnít even post the correct Tundra engine that went a million miles, so until then YOU should also continue your wishful thinking.
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If you want to get technical show me proof of a Tundra with a 5.7L engine that has a million original miles. You didnít even post the correct Tundra engine that went a million miles, so until then YOU should also continue your wishful thinking.
He does have a point^ Also the second tundra (not sure which size motor) that reached a million miles had its transmission rebuilt. Owner did say it might of just needed a flush. That being said, Im curious to what engine the hiluxs in the middle east use. Those things have gone past 500K no issue lol
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I've spent a lot of time in both. OP - one item that hasn't been mentioned is driving around in snow. I know some prefer the extra weight on the back end of an SUV vs. the empty/light bed of an unloaded pickup.

Tundra - Great truck, surprisingly quick with the V8, feels like a tank.

4Runner - Easier to maneuver day-to-day, slightly better gas mileage, great build quality.

Both have the same antiquated setups (electronics/drivetrain) and both have a fairly solid level of aftermarket support. Both should be extremely reliable.

If your heart is set on the 4R and the money isn't the driving force then go for it - you'll always have that "I should have just bought what I wanted" factor if you don't. If watching a budget is more critical, the Tundra is a great choice that should suit you well.
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That 4.0 and 3.4 motor tends to need to have motor or transmission fixes on the norm before 500k miles. Hey but until there are a few million mile 4 runner that got there without any issues on the motor or transmission you can continue your wishful (my neighbor does the same about his 5.4 ford 150) thinking about it being capable of getting there.
There was a member here who was closing in on 800k miles on his all original drivetrain '99 Limited 4Runner, the last time he posted. Like the people driving the million mile Tundras (which by the way were the old cast iron block 4.7 2UZ-FE, also found in the 4th gen 4Runner), he was in the oil industry.

The 5VZ-FE 3.4 has more in common with the 2UZ-FE 4.7, than either have in common with the 3UR-FE 5.7.

In fact the 1GR-FE 4.0 is similar in design to the 3UR-FE 5.7. Which makes sense since they both share more modern Toyota engine architecture.

When I was looking for a truck I was wishing Toyota had made the 1-ton Dually Tundra, which was headed for production until the last recession ended that. No 1/2 ton trucks have enough capability for what I was going to use one for.

OP, buy what you want.
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I voted 4Runner.

I leased a 4.7 Tundra for three years. Then I owned a 5.7 Tundra for 10 years. Now I drive a 2019 T4R OR. The 5.7 Tundra was powerful and reliable, but owning the 4Runner has been a blast. By far my favorite vehicle purchase in 35 years of driving.

I tow a 4,300 pound boat with the 4Runner (same boat hauled with the Tundra).
I’ve hauled lots of cedar siding and 12” x 2” x 16’ long cedar lumber on my aftermarket roof rack.
I’ve had 1.27 cubic yards of mulch (23 bags) in the cargo area with a level sag free ride home.
Yesterday, I hauled a prehung exterior entry door home from Lowe’s with a bit of it hanging out the roll down rear window.

The 4Runner TRD Off Road has served all of our needs hauling and towing. It’s also allowed us to go places on our adventure road trips that would’ve never fit a Tundra. The 4Runner is so much easier to park and maneuver too.

At first I thought I would miss driving a truck, but after a year, not so much.
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You can't go wrong with either. I've got an 07 Tundra that I've had for eleven years with virtually zero problems. A water pump around 100k miles is the ONLY non maintenance item I've done to it. And yes, it's a BEAST. In fact I lovingly call mine the beast. You will never complain about a lack of power with it. That said, I also have an 05 T4R that I've only had a short while and I love it too. But it doesn't have the power, smoothness or comfort of the Tundra. Like you I really like the 5th gen 4runners but if I could only have one or the other it would have to be the Tundra. Someone else on here referred to Tundras and Sequoias as having squeaks and stuff but my Tundra with 170k absolutely has none. It's as tight as it was when new. So after saying all that I really don't know what you should do. You really have a good problem to have. Like I said, you can't go wrong with either.
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