User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-16-2020, 08:37 AM #1
Fermn's Avatar
Fermn Fermn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Miami
Posts: 197
Fermn will become famous soon enough
Fermn Fermn is offline
Member
Fermn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Miami
Posts: 197
Fermn will become famous soon enough
Issues after lifting?

I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with their truck after lifting it?

By issues I don't mean squeaking noises or sag but rather any mechanical failure due to lifting the truck?


Just curious as my 3' kit with UCAs finally got here yesterday and I want to make sure I don't void any warranty on the truck.

On a side note: I got a diff drop kit but I've read mixed opinions about needing one? Should I install it or not? Just want to hear everyone's opinion on it..


Thanks guys !
Fermn is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2020, 09:49 AM #2
northcoast's Avatar
northcoast northcoast is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Eleanor, WV
Posts: 210
northcoast will become famous soon enough
northcoast northcoast is offline
Member
northcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Eleanor, WV
Posts: 210
northcoast will become famous soon enough
If you have KDSS: Can't confirm, but I may have worn out the bushings for the sway bar quicker after the lift - a little bit of a geometry change there.
__________________
2016 Nautical Blue T4R TEP w/KDSS, Oil Filter canister upgrade, Eibach Pro Truck lift 2.75/1.0, JBA UCAs, XD Machete 17X9 Wheels, Falken Wildpeak 275/70/17.
northcoast is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2020, 10:48 AM #3
nb rob's Avatar
nb rob nb rob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: eastern Canada
Posts: 1,311
nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice
nb rob nb rob is offline
Senior Member
nb rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: eastern Canada
Posts: 1,311
nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice nb rob is just really nice
I've got 4 years of 2 1/2" to ~2 3/4" of lift. I only drive fast on rotten forestry roads, and everything is great.

As northcoast mentioned, I've replaced my KDSS front swaybar bushings twice in 4 years.... proactively. They definitely wear faster, but they're cheap.

No diff drop. I wouldn't bother with it.

As far as voiding the warranty, I have a great shop that loves my 4runner as much as I do. They are fantastic to deal with. (Patterson Toyota in Woodstock, NB) There are 2 other toyota dealerships that are closer, but not the same kind of service AT ALL. They will throw their hands in the air and blame any issue on anything and everything. The trick is to find that right dealership and stick with them for any toyota work that you plan to do. They are definitely not all equal.

replacing shocks, springs and upper control arms will not void your warranty. But make sure you're going to a place that doesn't make you fight for everything.
__________________
_______________________
2015 trail edition premium w/ KDSS
OPOR sliders ● 255/75/17 firestone destination AT ●
King coilovers and shocks w/ compression adjust ● Dirtking UCAs ● Icon 2" rear springs
nb rob is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2020, 02:02 PM #4
northcoast's Avatar
northcoast northcoast is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Eleanor, WV
Posts: 210
northcoast will become famous soon enough
northcoast northcoast is offline
Member
northcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Eleanor, WV
Posts: 210
northcoast will become famous soon enough
^^^ I guess I'll buy those bushings in bulk lol.
__________________
2016 Nautical Blue T4R TEP w/KDSS, Oil Filter canister upgrade, Eibach Pro Truck lift 2.75/1.0, JBA UCAs, XD Machete 17X9 Wheels, Falken Wildpeak 275/70/17.
northcoast is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2020, 03:08 PM #5
CMTAZ CMTAZ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: AZ
Posts: 179
CMTAZ will become famous soon enough
CMTAZ CMTAZ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: AZ
Posts: 179
CMTAZ will become famous soon enough
personally, The biggest issue I have found is a direct correlation between lifting the 4Runner and the size of my visa bill
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2018 SR5 Premium - Eibach Pro Truck Lift Kit - TRD Wheels - Falken Wildpeak AT/3 - Tyger Armor Step Bars - Clear Bra - Kenwood DMX706s head unit - PowerBass 6.5" coaxial & 6x9" component speakers (tweeters replaced by JBL 3.5" coax) - Kenwood Excelon 5 Channel Amp - Pioneer 12" Shallow Mount Subwoofer - RAV4 Convex Mirrors - LED Headlights - Lexus LED Fog Lights (clones)
CMTAZ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2020, 05:18 PM #6
Fermn's Avatar
Fermn Fermn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Miami
Posts: 197
Fermn will become famous soon enough
Fermn Fermn is offline
Member
Fermn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Miami
Posts: 197
Fermn will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by northcoast View Post
If you have KDSS: Can't confirm, but I may have worn out the bushings for the sway bar quicker after the lift - a little bit of a geometry change there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nb rob View Post
I've got 4 years of 2 1/2" to ~2 3/4" of lift. I only drive fast on rotten forestry roads, and everything is great.

As northcoast mentioned, I've replaced my KDSS front swaybar bushings twice in 4 years.... proactively. They definitely wear faster, but they're cheap.

No diff drop. I wouldn't bother with it.

As far as voiding the warranty, I have a great shop that loves my 4runner as much as I do. They are fantastic to deal with. (Patterson Toyota in Woodstock, NB) There are 2 other toyota dealerships that are closer, but not the same kind of service AT ALL. They will throw their hands in the air and blame any issue on anything and everything. The trick is to find that right dealership and stick with them for any toyota work that you plan to do. They are definitely not all equal.

replacing shocks, springs and upper control arms will not void your warranty. But make sure you're going to a place that doesn't make you fight for everything.
Thank you guys. I have no KDSS ! Yes I agree about what you say regarding the dealers. I used to be a Service Advisor at my local Toyota dealer and we were that kind of dealer that would not want to warranty anything. Managers would get some type of bonus if they fell under a certain warranty bracket so they pretty much wouldn't get anything unless the customer was at the office yelling... Sad but true.

Anyway, I appreciate the input. I was mainly asking if theres anything that typically fails after the lift because that would not be covered under warranty if it did.
Fermn is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2020, 12:33 PM #7
Bat4runner Bat4runner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 38
Bat4runner is on a distinguished road
Bat4runner Bat4runner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 38
Bat4runner is on a distinguished road
If you replace/alter your suspension, those particular parts no longer fall under warranty. Dealerships look for every reason to attribute anything wrong to things that you've done to your truck.

The dealer I bought my 2020 from, they said suspension is covered under warranty if you do a spacer lift up to 3 inches. So, the theory here is that anything up to 3 inches for other parts impacted by suspension should be covered.

Just a thought
Bat4runner is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2020, 04:14 PM #8
Lost-Again's Avatar
Lost-Again Lost-Again is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 110
Real Name: Old man
Lost-Again will become famous soon enough
Lost-Again Lost-Again is offline
Member
Lost-Again's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 110
Real Name: Old man
Lost-Again will become famous soon enough
I'd like a lift. But seeing how I'm 9hrs from Big Bend and days from Colorado or any place cool West of Texas, I'm staying stock. It's nice being able to cruise at 90. Not that I can't do fun stuff.
Attached Images
Issues after lifting?-32ce9ea2-8d99-48dc-b932-6a4ebaf3844f_1_102_o-jpg 
__________________
2018 T4R TRD Pro Stock - RSG Sliders - Lock'er Down Console Safe - Yaesu 7900 - Cobra 75 - Garmin 55 Dash Cam - Gaia GPS - Garmin InReach Mini - Earthmate - Baja Designs Squad Sport Ditch Lights w/ Cali Raised Low Profile Ditch Light Brackets -Diode Dynamics SS3 Fog Light Kit - LFD Crossbars - BFG K2s - Warn VR EVO 10s - Warn Semi-Hidden Bumper
Lost-Again is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2020, 04:55 PM #9
Eagle62's Avatar
Eagle62 Eagle62 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 44
Real Name: Cono
Eagle62 is on a distinguished road
Eagle62 Eagle62 is offline
Member
Eagle62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 44
Real Name: Cono
Eagle62 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fermn View Post
I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with their truck after lifting it?

By issues I don't mean squeaking noises or sag but rather any mechanical failure due to lifting the truck?


Just curious as my 3' kit with UCAs finally got here yesterday and I want to make sure I don't void any warranty on the truck.

On a side note: I got a diff drop kit but I've read mixed opinions about needing one? Should I install it or not? Just want to hear everyone's opinion on it..


Thanks guys !
The only issue I've come across with the 3" lift on my truck is my wife *****es about it every time she climbs in. Other than that, no issues.
__________________
2018 Black 4Runner TRD OR
Eagle62 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2020, 05:11 PM #10
ayeyothisiskyle's Avatar
ayeyothisiskyle ayeyothisiskyle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: LA/IE
Posts: 496
ayeyothisiskyle has a spectacular aura about ayeyothisiskyle has a spectacular aura about
ayeyothisiskyle ayeyothisiskyle is offline
Member
ayeyothisiskyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: LA/IE
Posts: 496
ayeyothisiskyle has a spectacular aura about ayeyothisiskyle has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by nb rob View Post

I've replaced my KDSS front swaybar bushings twice in 4 years.... proactively. They definitely wear faster, but they're cheap.
Have you tried the poly bushings? I'm debating putting those on next. My KDSS bushings are shot.
__________________
2016 Trail + KDSS | Kings 2.5 w. Adj + Ext Travel Front & Rear - JBA High Caster UCA - Icon 3" "Overland" Springs - Proline 4x4 Rear Elite Dual Swingout Bumper - Demello Offroad X-Wing Sliders - SCS Ray 10 - Falken Wildpeak MT01 285/70/17 - Dirty Pants
ayeyothisiskyle is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-18-2020, 04:26 PM #11
Synstars Synstars is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Missouri City, TX
Posts: 28
Synstars is on a distinguished road
Synstars Synstars is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Missouri City, TX
Posts: 28
Synstars is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayeyothisiskyle View Post
Have you tried the poly bushings? I'm debating putting those on next. My KDSS bushings are shot.
Poly bushing may make the ride a lil stiffer and less comfortable. I haven’t had any on my 4R but I have built a few Audi’s with full poly bushings and the ride wasn’t as comfortable but did hold up better for mountain carving in Colorado
Synstars is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-18-2020, 10:58 PM #12
gringo8251's Avatar
gringo8251 gringo8251 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 87
Real Name: Zach
gringo8251 is on a distinguished road
gringo8251 gringo8251 is offline
Member
gringo8251's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 87
Real Name: Zach
gringo8251 is on a distinguished road
Any time you change the geometry of your suspension you're creating opportunities for accelerated wear of bearings, bushings, and joints. You happen to be lifting near the upper limit of what 4R folks consider normal. It's likely you're adding bigger tires/aftermarket wheels; more opportunities for accelerated wear. You can address some of this by using adjustable components like UCAs you mentioned.

You'll see lots of varying experiences and many "rules of thumb." In my opinion every build, no matter how nice or expensive, will see failures. If you look at it as an chance to upgrade whatever component, it's like you're doing stages of upgrades over time. Also, if you like turning wrenches, it's a great way to learn about your truck.
gringo8251 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 05:28 PM #13
jlensky5656 jlensky5656 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: california
Posts: 34
jlensky5656 is on a distinguished road
jlensky5656 jlensky5656 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: california
Posts: 34
jlensky5656 is on a distinguished road
I had a 2016 trail with kdss and I had a 2" lift on it for 2 years. During this time I did not experience any issues with mechanical failure. The only issue I came across during the lifting process, which I was aware before doing it, was putting bigger tires on and the rubbing from those bigger tires (obviously doesn't have to do with the lift or suspension itself). Just had to make some alterations to avoid tire rubbing.

As far as long term mechanic issues I cannot comment on that since I only had it for 2 years. There is also a lot of different variables because it depends on the brand of lift/suspension and other components that you may change out at this time and whether or not the person or the place you take the vehicle to knows what they are doing.

Last edited by jlensky5656; 06-19-2020 at 05:36 PM.
jlensky5656 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 07:32 PM #14
itr1275 itr1275 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 447
itr1275 has a spectacular aura about itr1275 has a spectacular aura about
itr1275 itr1275 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 447
itr1275 has a spectacular aura about itr1275 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayeyothisiskyle View Post
Have you tried the poly bushings? I'm debating putting those on next. My KDSS bushings are shot.

Poly bushings are very hard to keep from squeaking. You can lube them and then it's gets cold and they squeak. Relube, then they squeak when its warm. Squeak, Squeak, Squeak.

Granted these were control arm bushings, but something I wouldn't do again.

So if yo don't mind a pack of squirrels living under your hood, poly is for you.
itr1275 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 10:36 PM #15
sabom_matt's Avatar
sabom_matt sabom_matt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18
sabom_matt is on a distinguished road
sabom_matt sabom_matt is offline
Junior Member
sabom_matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18
sabom_matt is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by gringo8251 View Post
Any time you change the geometry of your suspension you're creating opportunities for accelerated wear of bearings, bushings, and joints. You happen to be lifting near the upper limit of what 4R folks consider normal. It's likely you're adding bigger tires/aftermarket wheels; more opportunities for accelerated wear. You can address some of this by using adjustable components like UCAs you mentioned.

You'll see lots of varying experiences and many "rules of thumb." In my opinion every build, no matter how nice or expensive, will see failures. If you look at it as an chance to upgrade whatever component, it's like you're doing stages of upgrades over time. Also, if you like turning wrenches, it's a great way to learn about your truck.
I've recently had a KDSS clunk diagnosed as the front driver hydraulic cylinder. I plan to go my and take a look myself before believing them, but what do you think about change in geometry and that particular part failing? I feel like that part would not be affected to the same degree as the bushing?
sabom_matt is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
issues , kit , lifting , needing , truck

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New to lifting Brandon83 3rd gen T4Rs 4 06-07-2012 11:19 PM
Lifting my 97 4R red-dead15 3rd gen T4Rs 14 09-20-2011 11:37 PM
Lifting the FJC way sheik Engines / Suspension / Wheels / Tires / Audio / Accessories 5 05-26-2010 12:29 AM
Lifting a 1st gen what do i need? Iroke17 Classic T4Rs 7 01-11-2010 12:07 AM
Lifting. 94Beast4Runner Classic T4Rs 0 10-07-2009 06:35 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:23 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020