07-03-2020, 05:57 PM
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This is an awesome mod. I might try this out on my bronco actually, the factory tcase crossmember on that thing is freaky low compared to the rest of the underside...
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07-04-2020, 07:29 AM
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I went out to Uwharrie today and rode all the trails and some a few times. as slow as tried to go going down some big ledges the 4R's big butt slammed down a few times. I guess this is what the back bumper is for.
Absolutely love the new tummy tuck. I was able to go over some rocks today i never would have tried a month ago and I do not think I ever dragged the skids. I did use my sliders which is great as that's what they are there for. the 4R was already very capable but now it's an entirely different beast.
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Native Tar Heel here from Salisbury. Do you know Denver NC was once called Dry Pond.?
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07-30-2020, 12:20 PM
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I'm assuming they will account for the center diff lock actuator on the backside of the t-case on your 2012 Limited when they design the final exhaust routing?
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07-30-2020, 01:57 PM
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I have used BudBuilt T-Case X-Member, and their Skid plates, VERY Beefy in quality, and I used to offroad with Bud in New England before, and he is a fantastic person. I will use them every time I have a need for their products!!
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09-14-2020, 05:37 PM
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Bump.
One other question, I heard they might not recommend this for 5th gen Limited or 4th gen V8/GX470 owners because the full time 4WD T-case may not like being clocked?
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09-14-2020, 07:06 PM
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Bump.
One other question, I heard they might not recommend this for 5th gen Limited or 4th gen V8/GX470 owners because the full time 4WD T-case may not like being clocked?
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This I'm not sure about, but is a good question. next time I speak to Bud I will inquire about it. This was done on my '19 not my '12. In fact we do not wheel the '12 very much at all which is certainly counterintuitive.
After my first real trip with it a few weeks ago at ATR, I can say it's great. Both mid and gas tank skids received light scraps while the trans skid which is much higher didn't have a mark. I'm a huge believer after using this and seeing the results afterwards.
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09-15-2020, 06:39 AM
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tummy tuck on Limited
I received some feedback from Bud last night and he doesn't perceive any issues with doing the tummy tuck on a limited. After seeing what they performed on my vehicle I'm sure they could figure it out.
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09-15-2020, 12:58 PM
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Native to NC myself. Spent many summers on Lake Norman in Denver around Slanting Bridge.
I did a flat belly skid on my CJ7 long ago. I had to use an adapter when I changed transfer cases and I had a machine shop clock the mounting holes.
The adapter meant I needed a longer output shaft in the tranny. Looking at your pictures, it doesn't appear that was the case. So i'm assuming just a clocking ring that doesn't affect tranny to t/c connection? (Sorry, i'm newer to the 4R)
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09-15-2020, 02:18 PM
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Native to NC myself. Spent many summers on Lake Norman in Denver around Slanting Bridge.
I did a flat belly skid on my CJ7 long ago. I had to use an adapter when I changed transfer cases and I had a machine shop clock the mounting holes.
The adapter meant I needed a longer output shaft in the tranny. Looking at your pictures, it doesn't appear that was the case. So i'm assuming just a clocking ring that doesn't affect tranny to t/c connection? (Sorry, i'm newer to the 4R)
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Very nice, I live extremely close to slanting bridge here in Denver, NC.
You have it correct, there is an adapter plate between transmission and transfer case and the drive shafts did not need to be changed as the length is the same, just a minor change to the angle.
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09-15-2020, 07:22 PM
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This is awesome! I'm not going over a 2" lift. Subscribed to the thread and looking forward to hearing the final cost.
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10-21-2020, 04:08 PM
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Has there been any updates regarding this kit coming out? Very interested in the final product.
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10-25-2020, 05:27 AM
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Not yet, I will ask them the next time I'm there, which should be in a few weeks.
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10-25-2020, 11:25 AM
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Following with interest!
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10-25-2020, 02:31 PM
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This is sweet!
It's funny that when I bought my 4R I said it would be barely touched as it's my daily driver. Also, I have a CJ-7 that should be the focus of my attention. Then, I make one cut with an angle grinder and now I'm just totally cool with chopping and welding everywhere.
Aaah, this is too awesome to ignore.
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10-28-2020, 03:16 PM
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I have put some of this detail inside of my build thread but felt it deserved it's own thread.
When starting out on the plan for my build this was something discussed early on, but was done roughly 1 year after the suspension and wheels tires were installed.
I own both a '12 Limited and '19 Off road and all of this work has been done on the '19.
Some might ask, what is a tummy tuck; well if you look under your 4R just behind the front wheels we have the center cross member, exhaust crossover, and transfer case which hang down quite low compared to the rest of the center of the vehicle.
Below is a picture from under the '12 to clearly show it and the corresponding ground clearance. this vehicle does have a BP-51 suspension under it so your vehicle may or may not sit lower.
So, what does the tummy tuck do, well in simple words it's the single best investment you can make to gain ground clearance. It's less expensive than many lift kits especially when you add in the upper control arm, etc and you will gain more ground clearance than with a lift. With our stock vehicles it's one thing to drive over something with our front wheels but it's another to get to clear that same obstacle with our back tires if it's too large and we high center on it.
The tummy tuck is your answer for this, short of trying something just crazy which we would never get over. The tummy tuck in essence removes the stock center cross member and replaces it with one much higher. The driver side cat also was moved up since it sit's lower than the passenger side. Then the entire exhaust system from the exit of the cat's to the muffler was replaced to raise it up.
Overall I have gained just over 4" of ground clearance from the bottom of the skid plates to the ground compared to what I had prior. I have not had the pleasure to out and use this yet but will this upcoming weekend and will be sure to post some more photos / videos of it in action.
This entire job was performed by the highly skilled team at BudBuilt here in NC. They will have some exciting news about this in the near future.
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Wow! What a welcoming and worthwhile modification to see on here as opposed to the normal "How do I install my flag window sticker". Nice job!
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