I personally don't really notice them unless I'm in a tight turn and there's a wall or thick vegetation right on the outside edge of the turn. Or when I pull up to my garage door, or a parking lot wall (where it doesn't matter).

Even then, it's noticeable but it's not a distraction, and I would still grade the lighting system overall as excellent with the OEM LED fogs.

It's definitely better than any HID conversion I've had in previous cars (yes, properly aligned in OEM halogen projector units etc.). And I'm reminded how much better they are than halogens every time I drive my wife's Crosstrek equipped with halogens.

I would do the conversion myself if I had a previous model year as these will be more reliable and outlast any aftermarket solution you can find. Just take a look at all the reliability and quality complaints for morimotos and alpharex!

It's a no brainer if you're looking for the best headlight performance for the 4R.

Especially if you can source them from other people for $1K after they swap. I would trust these way more than any other replacement unit. Drop-in LED bulbs aren't even in the same discussion as far as I'm concerned.

For a time I was thrilled with the cooler, blue-er look of the drop-in bulbs I had gotten. However, with the H9 halogens back in I find that the warmer light is less fatiguing on the eyes than the popular LED color temperatures. I even lens swapped my auxiliary driving lamps (SS3 pros) for the 4000K warm white.



Besides color, the other thing about LED headlights is that they will not warm the plastic shells to clear themselves of snow/slush.

But if I were still interested in any other lighting besides halogen for a 4Runner, the OEM units would be my only choice.

I thought I read and or saw a picture of the OEM LED lights being warm enough to keep the ice from building up? It may have been on the Taco forum. I dont recall if there is a Federal requirement for that when developing head lights but I wouldn’t doubt it.

Neither the Tacoma or the 4Runner have heated LED headlamps. You also have to remember that the window for snow buildup is rather narrow- you need heavy, wet snow near the freezing temperature. If it's colder and drier, it won't stick. Slush buildup tossed up from the road can be a problem though.

got an answer for this ?

to answer my own question, now that I think about it: there will be at least an issue with the DLR which would need some conversion module.

If you see post #172 and #176 they look to be plug and play. I'm not seeing any "conversion module".

For me I would rather have a "conversion harness" aka pigtail instead of chopping into the wiring on the headlight assembly and changing the plug.

Why? If you're buying the low beam only LED headlights (all models except limited and TRD PRO), the DRL and high beam should function the same no?

yes you are correct. But I was quoting the post where he was mentioning the full LED setup of the TRD pro/limited...

The Pro/Limited use a bi-LED projector for low and high beams. And the DRL no longer uses PWM to dim the bulbs in the reflectors. Since the low and high beams function completely differently than the halogen equipped trucks, I'd venture to say you need some more custom wiring to be able to install those.

Somehow I missed this.... It is NOT a complete plug and play as there is an adaptor needed... "a plug"!

Any indication what is this plug?

From talking to a person that has done this, for the non-Pro/Limited model (meaning just LED low-beam) it's very simple.

You remove the connector with the arrow below and replace it with a connector that matches the plug used on halogen models. Literally 2 wires and swapping a connector. Done.

Like our friend @mynameistory says, for the Pro/Limited models it will be more involved. There was someone many posts back that was trying it, but they never reported back.

I've got some non-Pro coming and I'm going to make the swap. I don't really care about high beams because I installed a 20" BD S8 lightbar in the grille in between the headlights, so if I need more light I'm good.

This is in Moab a year ago. This is why I went back to halogens and upgraded to H9’s. Halogen headlight and LED fogs.

Here's a few exterior shots of the LED low beams.

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Beauty. Thank you.
So that's an H11 male connector. Is it glued in there now ?