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Damn Jrunr, thank you for you service!!!!!!!!

I’d be worried more about keeping my M4 & my .338 Lapua clean more than my freaking high beam trigger wire!

Stay safe. Oorah !
No need to worry about that. Clean is life for my babies!! lol

With the T4R though, it was just something that really bugged the s*!t out of me with those damn headlights. Toyota just killed their headlights... and i need to be able to see!! lol
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These should be the correct part numbers for different versions of the headlights.

Halogen only: ($217.25)
L: 81170-35571
R: 81130-35541

LED w/ Halogen High beam ($647.97)
L: 81070-35600
R: 81140-35610

LED Low/High beams ($697.30)
L: 81070-35610
R: 81140-35620

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Page 253 | Tacoma World
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No need to worry about that. Clean is life for my babies!! lol

With the T4R though, it was just something that really bugged the s*!t out of me with those damn headlights. Toyota just killed their headlights... and i need to be able to see!! lol
Copy you.
I think all 2022 versions of the 4Runner have led lows/highs now.
I’m glad my 21 still used halogen in the high. At least I was able to change to a high output led replacement there and it works great.
If you can ditch the drl and re wire to the halogen high socket, you can upgrade and put a high output led there.
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I think all 2022 versions of the 4Runner have led lows/highs now.
IÂ’m glad my 21 still used halogen in the high. At least I was able to change to a high output led replacement there and it works great.
If you can ditch the drl and re wire to the halogen high socket, you can upgrade and put a high output led there.
Alternatively, the 9011 HIR bulb will fit nicely after a tab trim. It offers a huge brightness increase over the stock 9005 bulb and certainly over any LED drop-in bulb. Also they're only about $20 each, rather than hundreds of dollars. You can check out comparative data here:

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Page 263 | Tacoma World
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Alternatively, the 9011 HIR bulb will fit nicely after a tab trim. It offers a huge brightness increase over the stock 9005 bulb and certainly over any LED drop-in bulb. Also they're only about $20 each, rather than hundreds of dollars. You can check out comparative data here:

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Page 263 | Tacoma World
I had 9011 HIR in my 2014 , they were brighter that’s a fact.
I found my DDM Sabre LED’s 55 watt 12500/ pair lumens to be brighter.
YMMV
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I had 9011 HIR in my 2014 , they were brighter that’s a fact.
I found my DDM Sabre LED’s 55 watt 12500/ pair lumens to be brighter.
YMMV
If you think those lights are pulling 55 watts through those tiny heatsinks and over 1000 lumens per emitter, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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If you think those lights are pulling 55 watts through those tiny heatsinks and over 1000 lumens per emitter, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Hahahahaha

I guess you are the expert.
So I guess they are false advertising.

I’m just stating what I see from my own experience.

BTW, I’ve lost nothing in Brooklyn, so not interested in a bridge there anyway.
Have a nice day!

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Not at all, merely pointing out that companies selling drop-in LED bulbs often inflate their specs to sound impressive so that people will pay exorbitant amounts of money for them. The rating of 12000+ lumens per pair of bulbs (if credible) is likely the theoretical yield of the 12 chips if driven at/over 100% efficiency. The Achilles heel of drop-in LED bulbs is trying to mimic a tiny focal point (like a halogen filament) while still retaining the ability to shed heat from the chip junctions. This is why you end up with these things that look like little key blades with computer fans attached to them, and it's why reporting specs using theoretical lumen counts is often extremely misleading.



It is very possible that they are brighter than their traditional halogen counterparts. And in the open reflector design of the high beam application, things like hotspot focus and glare control are not as critical as they are in the low beam projector.

So your experience may be correct. Just don't feel disappointed if you measure the current draw of the lights and they pull nowhere near 55w. That would require a level of heat capacity not possible with that design.
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According to crashnburn80:

These should be the correct part numbers for different versions of the headlights.

Halogen only: ($217.25)
L: 81170-35571
R: 81130-35541

LED w/ Halogen High beam ($647.97)
L: 81070-35600
R: 81140-35610

LED Low/High beams ($697.30)
L: 81070-35610
R: 81140-35620

3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights | Page 253 | Tacoma World
I'm a bit confused here..
At this link
8114035610 - Toyota Headlight. Housing. Lens and amplifier. Unit assembly,. 2014-21. Headlight | Toyota Parts Overstock, Lakeland FL

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Fits 4RUNNER

2014-22, w/o LED high beams.
There seems to be another part with LED high beams too according to this website. But looks like it's the same part #.

What's the consensus on high beam LEDs? So far it seems folks've being installing lights with low beam LEDs only?
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I'm a bit confused here..
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8114035610 - Toyota Headlight. Housing. Lens and amplifier. Unit assembly,. 2014-21. Headlight | Toyota Parts Overstock, Lakeland FL

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2014-22, w/o LED high beams.
There seems to be another part with LED high beams too according to this website. But looks like it's the same part #.

What's the consensus on high beam LEDs? So far it seems folks've being installing lights with low beam LEDs only?
I can't comment on the part #'s as I bought mine used.

The reason people (myself included) are installing the headlights with low beam LEDs only is because they are virtually a direct swap. The low beam still uses a 2-wire connection. The only modification needed is to swap out the low beam connector. It's easy to do and doesn't require any wire cutting or other permanent modifications. The high beam connector stays the same as the halogen high beam bulb is still used for the high beams and DRLs.

The low & high beam LED headlights are wired differently and I don't think anyone has figured out how to make them work. What was just the low beam side is both low beam and high beam and has a 3-wire connection. And what was just the high beam (halogen) side is now just used for DRLs.

So if you want to install OEM LED headlights into your '14-'20 4Runner you need low beam only LED headlights from a '21 4Runner (SR5 premium, TRD OR, Venture). The Pro and Limited (I believe) have low and high beam LEDs so those won't work.
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8114035610 - Toyota Headlight. Housing. Lens and amplifier. Unit assembly,. 2014-21. Headlight | Toyota Parts Overstock, Lakeland FL

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2014-22, w/o LED high beams.
There seems to be another part with LED high beams too according to this website. But looks like it's the same part #.

What's the consensus on high beam LEDs? So far it seems folks've being installing lights with low beam LEDs only?
The part numbers look very similar. Cross check them on another Toyota site like Conicelli.

It seems the consensus opinion (and testing confirms) is that the LED high beams are not as bright as the halogen high beams.
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Ah... now it makes perfect sense.
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