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Old 09-01-2020, 11:21 PM #16
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Of course a 4Runner can take 36k miles per year. You can also chop down a tree with a butter knife if you're so inclined.

I love my 4Runner but I can think of a lot of other vehicles I'd rather spend 100 highway miles per day in.
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I do not believe these Fox shocks are designed to be rebuilt.

OP, I'd almost buy a set of shocks for your current driving habits and put the Fox ones back on when it changes.

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I agree with you that highway miles are the easiest on a vehicle and 36k/1 year is easier than 3k for each of 12 years.

But I am wondering what your foundation is for being "very careful using unapproved boutique oils". Are you saying that an oil from a company other than some large company with a huge advertising budget isn't good enough? If not, what exactly are you saying?

I mean, Toyota's owners manual for the 2020 4Runner says:



It doesn't say anything about "approved oils", other than that it should satisfy the ILSAC GF-5 multigrade requirements. Also note that 0w-20 is recommended rather than required. In other parts of the world, our 4.0 V6 engines are specified to use viscosities up to 20w50.
Instead of feeding this troll, just ask him how many miles he drives his 4Runner... spoiler it's 0
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Any thoughts on the wear and tear of 2020 TRD Pro doing 36k miles a year, 90% highway? I ask because with the upgraded suspension that’s really for off road will this many miles really do a number on the 4runner?

I’m not sure if my vehicle is made for this sort of driving.

Will have regular maintenance, every 5-10k miles. Had oil changed twice so far at around 12k miles.


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There's a common misperception that modern off-road trimmed vehicles (TRD Pro, Wrangler Rubicon, Ford Raptors, etc.) are made "for off road" more than on the road. Yes, they all have off-road capable suspensions, can be driven more places off road, etc. but the manufacturers' number one priority is to provide a road-worthy and highway-safe & capable vehicle, with the added off-road capabilities a secondary priority. As we all know, most buyers will never take these things on anything more than a gravel road. A TRD Pro has a lift and some nice shocks but those things in no way reduces its highway expectations... and compared to the other trims, may even make it a better highway vehicle. Sure, the struts/shocks may have to be rebuilt at some point based on their design but the Pro is still 98% the same as any other 4Runner.

Summary, drive it and don't worry. I had a '12 JK Rubicon. Everyone on the Jeep forums try to convince themselves a Rubicon is so off-road capable that there is no way it should be driven long distance I put about 35k miles a year on mine. Drove it all over the country for work projects. It did great on the highway, only needing oil changes and tire rotations.
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There's a common misperception that modern off-road trimmed vehicles (TRD Pro, Wrangler Rubicon, Ford Raptors, etc.) are made "for off road" more than on the road. Yes, they all have off-road capable suspensions, can be driven more places off road, etc. but the manufacturers' number one priority is to provide a road-worthy and highway-safe & capable vehicle, with the added off-road capabilities a secondary priority. As we all know, most buyers will never take these things on anything more than a gravel road. A TRD Pro has a lift and some nice shocks but those things in no way reduces its highway expectations... and compared to the other trims, may even make it a better highway vehicle. Sure, the struts/shocks may have to be rebuilt at some point based on their design but the Pro is still 98% the same as any other 4Runner.

Summary, drive it and don't worry. I had a '12 JK Rubicon. Everyone on the Jeep forums try to convince themselves a Rubicon is so off-road capable that there is no way it should be driven long distance I put about 35k miles a year on mine. Drove it all over the country for work projects. It did great on the highway, only needing oil changes and tire rotations.
Depends if that Rubicon is on 37's with no doors and no top. Mine doesn't go long distance.

But that's largely because I also have a T4R in the driveway to use for that duty instead. If this had been a "normal" year, the T4R would have seen 30k.
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Any thoughts on the wear and tear of 2020 TRD Pro doing 36k miles a year, 90% highway? I ask because with the upgraded suspension that’s really for off road will this many miles really do a number on the 4runner?

I’m not sure if my vehicle is made for this sort of driving.

Will have regular maintenance, every 5-10k miles. Had oil changed twice so far at around 12k miles.


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Your 4runner will be fine and you should drive what you like damnit. Cost/mile in wear and tear will of course be higher on an off road vehicle than most luxury touring sedans and commuting cars. The 4runner is so much cooler imo and is fine for a commuter, traveler, off roader as long as you are ok with the cost/mile wear and tear. I am and have no regrets! I prefer it!
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Depends if that Rubicon is on 37's with no doors and no top. Mine doesn't go long distance.

But that's largely because I also have a T4R in the driveway to use for that duty instead. If this had been a "normal" year, the T4R would have seen 30k.
You can definitely make a Jeep incapable for on-road. Both my JKUR and JLUR remained stock for the time I owned them. They did fine off-road and on.
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You can definitely make a Jeep incapable for on-road. Both my JKUR and JLUR remained stock for the time I owned them. They did fine off-road and on.
I wouldn't go so far as to say "incapable", just not the preferred ride for highway trips or security. If you are lucky enough to have a T4R as an option that is!
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I do not believe these Fox shocks are designed to be rebuilt.

OP, I'd almost buy a set of shocks for your current driving habits and put the Fox ones back on when it changes.
Toyota will say they are to be replaced, but I am pretty sure Fox will rebuild them. IIRC, Fox has said in the past the service life is 50k miles.
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Instead of feeding this troll, just ask him how many miles he drives his 4Runner... spoiler it's 0
Sir, you are correct of course. Doubt he'll return anyway.
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