10-02-2020, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by videopuppy
I must say though.... I bought this a little over a year ago and I always thought it had low-end noise! Everyone else was like.. na, thats fuel injectors..... I didn't buy that one bit, but not being familiar with the engine, I wasn't sure!
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When I was a kid working in a gas station, the owner used to buy cars with a rod knock like this and fill them up with 90 weight gear old. Made them nice and quiet. Then he resold them for a profit. Not saying that is what happened here, but at this point you would never know.
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10-03-2020, 12:10 AM
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you could always do a 2jz supra engine
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That thing would decimate all! After he put fifteen grand in to it or more.
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10-03-2020, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AZ Craig
I'm more surprised to hear one of these engines giving up in ~10 years and only 105000 miles. Has anyone else heard of or run into issues like this?
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Never. Very surprising.
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10-03-2020, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by videopuppy
Thank you, and me also..... I'm not a professional mechanic anymore, and I know shit happens.... I'm the second owner at 85,000 miles and I have NOT beat this 4runner at all! I have however beat the living shit out of my 4th gen and it's running like a timex at 260,000! I would really like to know if it was over RPM'ed by a young punk mechanic on the test drive!!
I must say though.... I bought this a little over a year ago and I always thought it had low-end noise! Everyone else was like.. na, thats fuel injectors..... I didn't buy that one bit, but not being familiar with the engine, I wasn't sure!
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You got it used at 85K miles so it’s possible the previous owner dicked around inside the engine and put it back to “running” condition then sold it to you. Then you drove it 20K miles and then the engine finally went to shit.
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10-03-2020, 12:32 PM
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Yep- who knows the previous owner may have never changed oil- the stuff I've seen on Just Rolled Into the Shop is truly scary.
Some are unbelievably clueless about maintenance.
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10-03-2020, 02:00 PM
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I work in the auto industry and have worked in a few dealerships. They cannot deny warranty coverage on the engine due to a suspension lift. Good luck trying to explain how a lift damaged the engine. Ask to speak to the service manager, and if that doesnt work call corporate Toyota and file a complaint and state they are denying warranty and cannot prove why. You'll get it covered, you just have to play the game with them.
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10-03-2020, 02:02 PM
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OP sounds like a low oil shutoff was working, shutting off the engine. If there is such a feature.
Why it later ran until a rod spun, I don't know. Intermittent oil filter bypass failure perhaps. Loose pickup tube.
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10-03-2020, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fkheath
When I was a kid working in a gas station, the owner used to buy cars with a rod knock like this and fill them up with 90 weight gear old. Made them nice and quiet. Then he resold them for a profit. Not saying that is what happened here, but at this point you would never know.
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I heard the same thing, but then I found out that 90 wt gear oil viscosity is not much different from 40 wt motor oil.
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10-03-2020, 03:50 PM
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Zurich has the right idea, the pan needs to come off, the bearings, both main and rod, need to be evaluated. They will tell a story of what may have happened; run low on oil, low oil pressure, run without oil ( by accident) after an oil change for a short period, etc. Doesn't mean you did it, some incidents take time to show up, but when they do it can be in the form of a catastrophic failure.
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10-03-2020, 04:20 PM
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1. Onus is on the dealership to prove it is a non warranty matter, if it indeed occurred while under term.
2. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Read it.
3. Sounds like you were aware of a pre-existing condition. Jumping to the conclusion that "it was over RPM'ed by a young punk mechanic on the test drive!!" is silly and as presumptuous as the dealership stating the issue is related to your suspension changes.
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10-03-2020, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by letzrace
I work in the auto industry and have worked in a few dealerships. They cannot deny warranty coverage on the engine due to a suspension lift. Good luck trying to explain how a lift damaged the engine. Ask to speak to the service manager, and if that doesnt work call corporate Toyota and file a complaint and state they are denying warranty and cannot prove why. You'll get it covered, you just have to play the game with them.
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The dealership can deny warranty claims on anything they want, if it will stick in a court of law is altogether a different matter. Corporate will intervene by contacting the dealership and perhaps even sending someone to check the vehicle. Most likely this will be resolved in the OP's favor, but if they want to be difficult about it the OP is in for an exciting time retaining an attorney. Toyota's money is long.
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10-03-2020, 06:23 PM
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So it went from a ''no start'' to a ''Rod failure'' while in THEIR care?! THEY need to pay for a engine. And no, the lift is legally irrelevant.
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10-03-2020, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 83Mule
So it went from a ''no start'' to a ''Rod failure'' while in THEIR care?! THEY need to pay for a engine. And no, the lift is legally irrelevant.
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its as simple as that.
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