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Old 10-23-2020, 08:24 PM #1
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4wd shifter - remove dial install lever?
So have & love the SR5, but MUCH prefer the Trail/TRD manual 4wd shifter to the dial.

Wondering is anyone has, or knows about, changing the shifter?

Just started cogitating about it...figure it would require removal of the electronics & actuator and purchase and install of the mechanical parts. But it might be a lot more complicated than that if say the computer is involved somehow.

Thoughts/comments if you please.
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Probably more trouble then its worth. Sell the SR5 and get a TRD OR
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There is a big difference internal to the transfer case -- the shift rails and forks are different. Thus you would have to rebuild the transfer case, so it is really not possible. You can see what I mean by looking at the factory repair manual where they break down both types of transfer cases:
TOYOTA 2016-2019 4Runner Repair Manual RM27F0U
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There is a big difference internal to the transfer case -- the shift rails and forks are different. Thus you would have to rebuild the transfer case, so it is really not possible. You can see what I mean by looking at the factory repair manual where they break down both types of transfer cases:
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Yikes, a LOT more involved than it seems on the surface. Thanks for the reference.

Looks like I'll be using the dial....no sense spending $12k to change the shifter.
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... if you're worried about it being 'reliable'... you're probably pretty safe. While I'm sure somebody will jump in and say otherwise, there doesn't seem to be a lot of owners here who have had trouble with the dial shifter not working as it should, even with a lot of miles and use. You're not likely to have a problem with it IMHO.

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I use my "dial" regularly. That may be one reason I haven't had any problems with it.

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Of all the drive by wire things on the 4R, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Even the manual lever models still have the same electronic actuators to engage the front diff so it’s not an entirely mechanical system anyway.


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Yikes, a LOT more involved than it seems on the surface. Thanks for the reference.

Looks like I'll be using the dial....no sense spending $12k to change the shifter.
Used low mileage used TC is less than 1k.

It still tempts me.
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It should be possible, the easiest way would be to get salvaged parts (transfer case, selector lever, any connection parts etc from a trail/pro).

As others have mentioned not really worth it but I don't think in the grand scheme it would be that hard to do.
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I wonder what kind of electronic control module differences there are. You might need some different control modules potentially.
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