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Old 04-13-2021, 10:25 PM #16
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yeah i have the Bridgestone Duelers as well,

why do you say they are crap ?

they seem to be really quiet please explain maybe im just not aware on whats better lol

actually may as tell me whats better as id want 275s instead with stock suspension i dont mind the rubbing yolo

They are just basic generic average highway tires. They are quiet and light for fuel economy but aren’t really much good in the winter or for much off-roading. Pretty much any AT tire is going to be better if you want something that can stand up to much more than a dry well groomed forest road. They CAN do more but you’re risking a puncture. I went with Falken Wildpeaks and they’ve been great.


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They are just basic generic average highway tires. They are quiet and light for fuel economy but aren’t really much good in the winter or for much off-roading. Pretty much any AT tire is going to be better if you want something that can stand up to much more than a dry well groomed forest road. They CAN do more but you’re risking a puncture. I went with Falken Wildpeaks and they’ve been great.

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I’ve never had an issue with the stock Duelers. I would not call them “light” however they are a light truck tire.
Ive been on goat trails that were called “roads” and in the snow and ice and haven’t had problems.
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What are your thoughts on the KDSS? (fwiw - I'm in the US - Northeast)

Would you get a Venture that doesn't have KDSS? Just looking on cars.com, and inventory is limited overall, it seems like most don't have it as a selected option (surprisingly).

Again, my 4Runner use is really going to be weekend fishing/camping/ski trips. IF I get to the point where I start doing true off-roading, I'll be open to doing the necessary mods.

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What are your thoughts on the KDSS? (fwiw - I'm in the US - Northeast)

Would you get a Venture that doesn't have KDSS? Just looking on cars.com, and inventory is limited overall, it seems like most don't have it as a selected option (surprisingly).

Again, my 4Runner use is really going to be weekend fishing/camping/ski trips. IF I get to the point where I start doing true off-roading, I'll be open to doing the necessary mods.

Thanks again!
I test drove a TRD ORP w/ KDSS when I was shopping and ultimately bought my Venture without KDSS, mainly because the deal on the first truck fell through due to dealer games.

On road, KDSS is essentially a VERY thick swaybar. If you're familiar with what upgraded swaybars feel like on sports cars, they reduce body roll without negatively affecting ride. I could definitely feel the KDSS equipped 4Runner being more stable at highway speeds compared to my Venture without KDSS. But for me the improvement there wasn't really a make or break thing. I don't drive my 4Runner aggressively and it pretty much drives like any other truck I've driven before which I don't mind. Some people really can't stand how trucks drive and want the car to feel more stable or "stiff" in roll control. I can't say KDSS made the 4Runner feel even as decent as my wife's second gen Acura RDX, which isn't particularly sporty. It's still a big, softly sprung, sold rear axle, offroad oriented body on frame SUV after all I guess the only way to know whether it's crucial for you is to drive both if you can.
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They are just basic generic average highway tires. They are quiet and light for fuel economy but aren’t really much good in the winter or for much off-roading. Pretty much any AT tire is going to be better if you want something that can stand up to much more than a dry well groomed forest road. They CAN do more but you’re risking a puncture. I went with Falken Wildpeaks and they’ve been great.


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were the Falken Wildpeaks louder like noticeably louder on highway speeds than the peasant Duelers ? which btw i agree with.. there was a lil ice/snow on my driveway i was trying to reverse to and i couldnt even make up my 20degree driveway lol was just spinning out and sliding the whole 4runner sideways lol also i notice it captures so many rocks
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KDSS is optional on Venture in 21, cheers,
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KDSS is a system that adds weight and cost to a vehicle that is already capable on and off road. ( MY Opinion) Supposedly if working will disconnect the swat bar to allow more suspention articulation. Its also on the Landcruiser but I drove one of those and was very disappointed with front seat room vs 4 runner. FJ and old land cruisers, not to mention 90K price tag... Its something else to break and fix on a vehicle Ill likely keep till the meter turns 300k, just like my last three Toyotas... Cheers!
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KDSS is optional on Venture in 21, cheers,
standard in Canada
you can not buy a venture without KDSS here

also KDSS is king.. lots of cope here

i drove a Pro and a venture Kdss and it was night and day difference.. on ramps feel so nice it reminds me of my bmw x6M. on the pro my shoulders were moving right to left while getting on highway.. on venture i felt it much less but there was also this feeling of the g force trying to center you which mimics a stiff suspension same feeling i had in an x6
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How common is it to find a trade partner for the black wheels? I’d much rather have the grey/bronze or something.
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