11-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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I have the Crawl Control and have used it a few times each year. Most people don't need this and I probably could have got thru without it. It is good on slippery(ICY) descents and loose rock steeps including loose ledgy (STEEP) up hills. I roll a stock 16 Trail with KO2s. It is everything I want and need.
I plan on trading mine next year for a 21 ORP. I have 146,000 and it runs like new and I have no reason to except I like the new car smell.
The rear hatch window did drop out of the controller and had an expensive replacement last month. If this happens there is no way to put it up without removing the rear door panel and taking the hatch apart! Luckily I was home and not 200 miles from help.
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11-11-2020, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eriktp
What seat covers did you go with?
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Went with the Clazzio covers. Somewhat of a hassle to install, but once done they look great.
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11-11-2020, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonecamping
I second this... I did NOT like how the "softex" felt (imo cheap)
Although I took the savings and bought 5100's and BFG Ko2's
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Nice! I went with the 5100s, JBA UCAs, Dobinson springs, tint, SCS wheels, and now just recently put on a full length Prinsu rack and Metal-Tech sliders.
Looking forward to my stock Duelers to wear down so I can wrap my wheels with some AT’s.
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11-12-2020, 02:02 AM
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I prefer manual transfer case. No electronic solenoid s to worry about exercising. Bonus was the rear locker.
Off-road model.
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11-12-2020, 10:46 AM
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as others have mentioned, there's a lot more than cosmetic differences. The crawl control and locker are only worth it if you are doing a lot of gnarly offroading. You won't use it otherwise. I offroad in UT, AZ, NM, and CO pretty often and I've only used it 4 or 5 times in a year, mostly in Moab. Although I use the locker pretty often. I prefer the manual transfer case to an electronic one. I have a dog that is always with me and the softex has been great. easy to clean and seemingly impervious to dog claws and ski edges. I personally like the hood scoop even though it's fake.
imo, bottom line, if you want to save money, the upgrades on the TRD are not things you can't live without.
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11-12-2020, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KingPrat
Pretty sure the SR5 Premium has always been Softex material. Only trim to have leather is Limited AFAIK.
Unless I'm missing something from the '10-'13 5th gens, but it doesn't make sense to do (SR5) Leather -> (TRD) Softex -> (Limited) Leather from a production cost persepective.
In terms of the OPs question, for me it was pure personal preference. Wanted the hood scoop and silver trim on the front. Everything else is basically the same, powertrain wise.
See the vehicle you want and go get it. You can't go wrong with either. Who cares if you never use the rear diff lock!?
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The '10-'13 models had leather in the SR5 and waterproof cloth in the Trail Edition. In '14, the SR5 and Trail Edition became more similar and all switched to Softex. I had a '10 with leather and currently have a '16 Trail Edition with Softex. I prefer the Softex. The leather on the SR5 had different grades depending if it was a high wear area or not. Some pieces were really hard and others were soft. I didn't care for it.
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11-12-2020, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wcjeep
I prefer manual transfer case. No electronic solenoid s to worry about exercising. Bonus was the rear locker.
Off-road model.
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You still have a electronic solenoid in the front diff though.
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11-13-2020, 01:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rightyouareken
You still have a electronic solenoid in the front diff though.
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I have not heard of anyone on this board having problems with the front diff solenoid. I did read a variety of threads of people not exercising the electtonic transfer case then having problems with solenoid packs. Manual transfer case is very definitive.
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11-13-2020, 04:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wcjeep
I have not heard of anyone on this board having problems with the front diff solenoid. I did read a variety of threads of people not exercising the electtonic transfer case then having problems with solenoid packs. Manual transfer case is very definitive.
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I think he means to say that the Manual level, like the knob system, still relies on electronic components so not entirely more reliable. Still, if the solenoid failed, at least you'd still have 3WD with the manual..or so I think lol
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11-13-2020, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cccolin
imo, bottom line, if you want to save money, the upgrades on the TRD are not things you can't live without.
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Thank you all for your responses... this was very helpful. And in fact, I don't need any of these features... but they are real and substantive, and that was what I was looking for the answer to. I don't so much mind paying for something I "might" never use. I do mind paying for phantom functionality. So much of differential pricing is about trying to craft the feature pyramid to force you to as high a price as possible. I know the game, and yet here I am looking at one of the higher priced models; at least I can tell myself I'm getting something for my foolishness
Thanks again for the helpful feedback. I'll add some pictures when the new baby arrives.
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